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re: Death Penalty for LSU

Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:47 am to
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14869 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:47 am to
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No way forward?" Take a brief glance at what Kansas & Arizona did, and what happened to those 2 blue bloods. Study Pearl's resume in the last decade: with him as HC, three different schools were placed on probation.Look what happened to him. As for comparing SMU's transgressions to LSU : SMU's president, the president of the university, was found to be neck deep in the athletic dept.'s corruption. The number of players & recruits found to have received illegal benefits was found to be over 30. LSU's numbers are nowhere close to what happened at SMU.


How about this one?
"Mizzou fired the rogue tutor who took a fricking test for one player, admitted our mistake and threw ourselves on the mercy of the NCAA We got a bowl suspension, loss of scholarships, limited time periods for contacting kids and more."

"Y'all should use the kansas method. Tell the NCAA to frick off and dare them to penalize you."
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14869 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:54 am to
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It'll be less than what Ole Miss got.



I am thinking the same what Missouri got or it could be a little bit more.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 1:04 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52344 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:09 am to
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Hearing from sources close to the situation that the NCAA will view the violations holistically and football will be taken into account with basketball violations as a part of lack of institutional control.
Sources say the punishment will be considered similar to USC in which LSU football will see a reduction of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 2-year post-season ban and vacation of wins. The 2019 Championship could be on the chopping block due to what the NCAA views as the LSU administration's cavalier attitude in cheating, sources close to the investigation confirm.

Due to the IARP, LSU will have no recourse for appeal and will have to accept the penalties.

This does not have anything to do with the federal government, more specifically the Dept. of Education's Clery Act investigation into the school due to egregious Title IX violations.
However, it did affect the NCAA's view of the entire LSU institution as a whole and their penchant for making an example of a program run wild.

Sources confirm there will be news on penalties before the end of Spring.

Stay tuned.


Alabama fans are desperately hoping the 2019 championship gets vacated for some reason.


Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:16 am to
That guy has got to be on the spectrum.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:20 am to
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Sources say the punishment will be considered similar to USC in which LSU football will see a reduction of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 2-year post-season ban and vacation of wins. The 2019 Championship could be on the chopping block due to what the NCAA views as the LSU administration's cavalier attitude in cheating, sources close to the investigation confirm.


Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6872 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:22 am to
I’d rather just see them get hammered and struggle along for years. You know, sorta like us.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5167 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:28 am to
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OGtigerfan87


quote:

I’ve been offering a ban bet for a while but y’all cowards won’t take it. I say Wade and LSU receive pretty much no punishment from this. I say LSU keeps the SEC title, zero postseason bans and wade stays. If even one of those things happens I’m gone, if not you’re gone. Anybody grow a pair yet?


Why are you still here?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10332 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:35 am to
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lenient since we cut Wade loose


So, once you guys heard the audio of the Strong arse Offer, take me through it: Your AD and President wanted to fire the coach. But the Board rebelled and fired the AD and President instead. And kept the coach.

And you think that's the formula for leniency?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:42 am to
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And you think that's the formula for leniency?


Define leniency, in this case.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 7:43 am
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76436 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:15 am to
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Hearing from sources close to the situation that the NCAA will view the violations holistically and football will be taken into account with basketball violations as a part of lack of institutional control.
Sources say the punishment will be considered similar to USC in which LSU football will see a reduction of 30 scholarships over 3 years, 2-year post-season ban and vacation of wins. The 2019 Championship could be on the chopping block due to what the NCAA views as the LSU administration's cavalier attitude in cheating, sources close to the investigation confirm.

Due to the IARP, LSU will have no recourse for appeal and will have to accept the penalties.

This does not have anything to do with the federal government, more specifically the Dept. of Education's Clery Act investigation into the school due to egregious Title IX violations.
However, it did affect the NCAA's view of the entire LSU institution as a whole and their penchant for making an example of a program run wild.

Sources confirm there will be news on penalties before the end of Spring.

Stay tuned.


I will ban bet you that the NCAA will accept LSU's self imposed penalties for the football program.

The football infraction was the OBJ postgame shenanigans. All the money was returned, bowl ban, reduced scholarships.

Basketball maybe fricked, though.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:17 am to
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I will ban bet you that the NCAA will accept LSU's self imposed penalties for the football program.


I'll throw my name in that bet too.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:19 am to
Nothing will happen in football (nor should it).
They should at least lose their SEC bball title though since the precedent has already been set.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9666 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:23 am to
LSU is not eligible for the death penalty. Folks, read the NCAA Bylaws and understand the ONLY way you get the death penalty.
People act like the NCAA can just kill off a program and the absolutely can not unless you fit one criteria.

The death penalty is not being used because there has been nothing as outlandish as the SMU cases, yes plural. Again, history is ok to research, it wont hurt you. Go read the SMU death penalty case of 1987 and the events that lead up to it. It will make these things look like childs play. Nothing before or since compares.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9666 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:26 am to
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Alabama fans are desperately hoping the 2019 championship gets vacated for some reason.


That list a lot longer than Alabama. Listen to Stephen A Smith. Pretty much everybody except LSU says it should be.
Listen to other fanbases as much as you listen to Alabama.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:28 am to
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Again, history is ok to research, it wont hurt you. Go read the SMU death penalty case of 1987 and the events that lead up to it.


These are kids. 1987 might as well be the stone age.

Ridiculous to compare SMU to any program since.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:29 am to
He was talking about football.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:33 am to
“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.”
? Groucho Marx
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52344 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:35 am to
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That list a lot longer than Alabama. Listen to Stephen A Smith. Pretty much everybody except LSU says it should be.
Listen to other fanbases as much as you listen to Alabama.



I haven't heard anyone say it should be vacated except for a few low IQ posters like yourself who don't understand how that works.



Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52344 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:40 am to
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I will ban bet you that the NCAA will accept LSU's self imposed penalties for the football program.

The football infraction was the OBJ postgame shenanigans. All the money was returned, bowl ban, reduced scholarships.

Basketball maybe fricked, though.


Basketball is definitely fricked.

Football does have the Level I violation in the OLOL case, I could see them having to vacate any wins that Vadal Alexander participated in.

Technically, that wasn't LSU attempting to buy a recruit IMO just due to the evidence, but it's still a violation by the letter of the law.

I could see maybe another bowl ban, some scholarships, and probation.

Hopefully, they'll just accept the self imposed sanctions for football but who knows.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48704 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:46 am to
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LSU could get the death penalty in both sports and still win a title before Ole Miss does.

goddamnit
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