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re: Damien Harris, not a DeBoer fan.....

Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:17 am to
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:17 am to
This is a retarded take that will be upvoted by retards.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1410 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:30 am to
Saban went along with the 15 year Learfield deal, but you could tell he didn't care for it. Someone at Alabama made a ton of money off of the kickback.

The assistant coaching situation wasn't the only reason Saban made his move. He just won't badmouth the Alabama hierarchy.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1197 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:31 am to
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Guys like Damien Harris are why Saban coached. He saw more guys like Malachai Moore on his team and lost his love for the game. He forsaw games like Saturday happening more often with younger kids too obsessed with what can i get for myself money wise than what can i do for my team.




I think you are missing the real reason, the transfer rules being put forth like they were stops any discipline a coach might lay down, because a guy will just say, he coach I will transfer. That is why Saban left, not only paying players, but having to recruit them every year, and there can be no REAL DISCIPLINE with these rules.

I stated in 2020 this would destroy CFB.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
7684 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:36 am to
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Not at all. In 2010 when UA was coming off a NC our defense made Garcia look like the top pick in the draft and we heard the same thing.



That 2010 South Carolina team was a lot better than the 2024 Vanderbilt team. It's not even close to the same comparison.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61669 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:42 am to
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What most, like me, have railed against are all the idiots on here that were and some still are saying that Alabama will suddenly be a .500 team.



Have never read a post here that said that.

Must've missed it.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1410 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 11:48 am to
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That 2010 South Carolina team was a lot better than the 2024 Vanderbilt team.


Vandy is currently a better team than people give them credit for.

The games against Virginia Tech and Missouri both went to OT.

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 12:08 pm to
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I think you are missing the real reason, the transfer rules being put forth like they were stops any discipline a coach might lay down, because a guy will just say, he coach I will transfer. That is why Saban left, not only paying players, but having to recruit them every year, and there can be no REAL DISCIPLINE with these rules.


It goes both ways. DeBoer can sit Malachi. It's not like Malachi is a difference maker.
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Member since Feb 2014
2341 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
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He forsaw games like Saturday happening more often with younger kids too obsessed with what can i get for myself money wise than what can i do for my team.
Saban also contributed to this mess in his own way with his Vandy comments.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15523 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:25 pm to


How do you miss all the TN Tygah, William Taylor, Draconian Sanctions, LSU Patrick and Nicholas tiger posts?

You seem to have a VERY selective memory, I notice it in a lot of your posts.
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Member since Nov 2012
2615 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:28 pm to
But Malachi had his back when he got there! You can't discipline someone who had your back!

Man, I was real nervous about Bama hiring him, but now I'm glad. Dude does not fit into the SEC. I don't want to hear shite from Bama fans about BK. At least our coach can show some emotions, get pissed off, and we actually see improvement week over week.

DeBoer claimed he wasn't giving his team a choice about flushing the Georgia game and focusing on Vandy. That obviously didn't happen. Now he doesn't sound concerned at all about making sure his team will be up for USC.

He better hope the team gets themselves mentally ready, because it feels like listening to him that the players run stuff there and he's just offering suggestions.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:31 pm to
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He forsaw games like Saturday happening more often with younger kids too obsessed with what can i get for myself money wise than what can i do for my team.

What would you do if you had a middling chance to make the NFL but could extract cash playing college football. Surely they have agents helping them but if not, they have business minds.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Not at all. In 2010 when UA was coming off a NC our defense made Garcia look like the top pick in the draft and we heard the same thing.

The other issue is play like that after beating UGA the week prior as the underdog hosting the game. But I guess the lost to Vandy also really exposed UGA as well as being a pretender.


No. When you are at your best you can beat us. We can also beat you. The problem here is the standard was dropped. You've got a much wider gap in your floor to ceiling play now on any given week. DeBoer is great at getting his team up for big games. But his past has shown he has a problem getting them to play solid football when facing bad teams at times. Dude for the Athletic wrote an article on it. In his two years at Washington he struggled several times with 3-9 type teams despite coaching teams that went to the playoff or played in NY6 bowls.

This is a better Vandy team, but they wouldn't have had a prayer vs. a Nick Saban team 2008 to 2023.

Nothing wrong with the offense by the way. But the offense can't operate unless they are on the field and your defense didn't give them the opportunity very much in this game.
Posted by DaBama
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2011
1675 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Vandy is currently a better team than people give them credit for.


It was hard for me to tell if Vandy was that good or if Bama just stunk it up.
Probably a little of both. All I know is Vandy had all the answers on offense.
They were very well coached.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30930 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:30 pm to
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Can't argue with anything he just said tbh.
But also man, DeBoer is stepping into an impossible situation replacing Nick Saban.

People keep flippantly calling Saban "The Goat."
Okay let's actually understand this: Saban is the greatest football coach of all time, in the history of the game. Nobody is going to follow that up. We're going to see a dropoff. Period.

The former players are gonna call him out. The current players are gonna call him out. Yeah, let's just understand it now, DeBoer isn't the greatest of all time, but he is a great coach. Let's let him do his thing without coming at his throat for one SEC loss


While the NIL and Free agency is causing problems for all and caused Saban to say frick this shite, I just want to point out that when Saban came to Alabama, he was not "The Goat". He became "The Goat" at Alabama.

DeBoer has all he needs, the rest is up to him.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:34 pm to
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I stated in 2020 this would destroy CFB.


If anything, for the vast majority it's making it more fun.

It might destroy the ability to build a long term dynasty. But most fans seemed to enjoy Saturday overall. I'd like for Georgia to be dominant. Not sure if they can in this era. But more teams feeling like they have a legit shot will probably make it more enjoyable for the average fan. So I'm not getting the "destroy" stuff.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
15523 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:40 pm to
I think the problem most people have is that we already have the NFL. Many of us like having college football and the NFL to choose from. We don’t want the NFL and the NFL Developmental League.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:47 pm to
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I think the problem most people have is that we already have the NFL. Many of us like having college football and the NFL to choose from. We don’t want the NFL and the NFL Developmental League.


It's funny because that's exactly what Saban sold Alabama as in recruiting. Kirby does the same thing at UGA. Literally say: "You want to be developed for success in the NFL, come here."
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68997 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:55 pm to
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Penix made the guy and it could not be more obvious

If you watched Washington games last year, Deboer made a lot of games against closer than they needed to be. His game management and clock management at the end of games was maddening. And he played with fire on more than one occasion against bad football teams

Arizona - had 31-17 lead late in 4th quarter. Arizona turns it over on downs. What does he do? Throws two incomplete passes, calls another pass play but Penix gets sacked, and only burns 31 seconds off the clock. Arizona then drives 90 yards to score a TD to make it a one possession game. There was still a minute on the game clock. The fortunately recovered the onside kick

Arizona St - Arizona St was BAD (3-9). But for an untimely pick 6 in the 4th quarter, they lose that game.

Stanford - was also BAD (3-9). It was a 35-33 game until Stanford was stopped on 4th down deep in their own territory with a couple minutes left in the game.

Oregon State - hung on by the hair on their chin 22-20. Stopped Oregon St on 4th down around midfield to basically end the game.

Washington St - also a BAD team (5-7). It was a tie game 21-21. Washington got a first down and had the ball on the Washington St 21 yard line. Washington St only had 1 timeout left. Penix throws a deep pass incomplete on first down, should have been picked off. Then he takes a sack on 2nd down for a loss of 9 yards. They fortunately get out of there with a game winning 42 yard field goal.

Utah - took them until a late 4th quarter pick to pt that game away. Won 35-28.

Kinda nuts, they had 8 games decided by 1 score last year, and hat doesn't even include the Stanford game. Their pass defense was horrible, 120th in the country. We're seeing the same type stuff at Alabama. Ryan Williams saved him from an embarrassing choke last week, and he got burned by Vandy 2 days ago.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 3:59 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68997 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 4:06 pm to
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Vandy is currently a better team than people give them credit for.

they are but they still lost to Georgia St. Georgia st has a 3 point win against UTC (2-3), a 23 point loss to Georgia Tech (4-2), and a 17 point loss to Georgia Southern (3-2)

Virginia Tech is not good. Their only wins are against Marshall, Old Dominion and Stanford. Missouri hasn't looked good in any game they've played this year against P5 teams, despite their ranking to start the season.
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 4:14 pm to
He didn't say one wrong word.

I was concerned when I heard CKdB had moved to morning practices, since, you know, we don't play games in the morning... Asked someone connected and he said, "the players love it." Just shook my head.
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