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re: Congrats Bryce Young. But you have to admit…

Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:51 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:51 am to
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BY was deserving in THIS class…but the class as a whole was a really weak class and no one gave a shite about the heisman this year.


This is revisionist history at its finest. If we're going by votes attained, then 2019 is the weakest class in the history of the trophy considering how 90% of the possible votes went to Burrow. All four of the finalists from this year's class will likely go in the first round of the NFL Draft. Hutchinson and Young are both projected to be #1 picks in 2022 and 2023 respectively while Kenny Pickett is projected as a high first round selection. Stroud is only a freshman but he's off to a great start to his career. What exact metrics are you basing your opinion on other than homerism?
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 8:52 am
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:53 am to
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Compare to Joe Burrow’s class: Chase Young, Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts. All freaking studs.


This is a good point, but that was a very weak class compared to the 2015 class.
Look at how much more successful those 3 have been in the NFL……
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1771 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:54 am to
That linebacker from bama was the best player in the field every game this season. Dude should’ve gotten an invite to NYC at least. Bryce is very good, and deserved to win, there just wasn’t a real heisman moment or game from anyone this year. Bryce’s game against UGA was the closest I guess.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:55 am to
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Weak competition.
You're right. Should have been Anderson, Young, and Burrow in NYC. Most deserving of the field.


Seriously though, I love watching the presentation show to learn more about the players. All seemed like very humble, hard working kids. Really liked this year's show.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:56 am to
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This was one of the weakest and most uninteresting group of Heisman finalists that I can remember in recent history. Had barely even heard of Huthcinson and Pickett…and Stroud is definitely not the star like some of the other OSU QBs we’ve seen in the past. Weak competition.

Compare to Joe Burrow’s class: Chase Young, Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts. All freaking studs.




I'm not saying Bryce Young is not deserving. I certainly think he was the most qualified of the candidates but this was a quiet heisman year. Bryce sealed the deal with his last 2 games. Up until that point it was wide open. I personally wish they'd show defensive players more love. Will Anderson deserved it just as much.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:58 am to
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there just wasn’t a real heisman moment or game from anyone this year. Bryce’s game against UGA was the closest I guess.

I assume you switched off the Iron Bowl with 1:27 on the clock and Bama down 7 on their 3 yard line with a hodge podge OL, no WR1, an RB4, and no timeouts. Then, a series of great plays in OT.
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2593 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:00 am to
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armytide373



Now go compare the strength of schedule and the teams those yards and TDs were achieved against. LSU beat 5-6 top 10 teams that year. Bama’s competition this year has been weak and there were times that they played down to the competition.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:00 am to
good ole LSU fans

but 2019
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:05 am to
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LSU beat 5-6 top 10 teams that year. Bama’s competition this year has been weak and there were times that they played down to the competition.


Alabama will end up beating four Top 10 teams if they win it all. Plus the SEC was very strong this year considering every team in the division is going bowling and 13 out of the 14 teams will make postseason appearances. Also...Burrow was a fifth-year senior in 2019 compared to Young being a true sophomore in 2021. Not only that, Young saw very little playing time last year. Also...no one is trying to compare 2021 Alabama to 2019 LSU.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:08 am
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15305 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:09 am to
I love these corndeauxg tears! So salty.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2749 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:12 am to
And Burrow did it all behind a line that won the Joe Moore award while Bryce Young did it behind one made of Swiss cheese for the majority of the season. You can keep making arguments and counter arguments all you want to justify trying to shite on the 2021 finalist but when it all boils down, you LSU fans are just coming across a salty bitter bitches. Just say good season, move on and enjoy you Texas Bowl.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:12 am to
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I assume you switched off the Iron Bowl with 1:27 on the clock and Bama down 7 on their 3 yard line with a hodge podge OL, no WR1, an RB4, and no timeouts. Then, a series of great plays in OT.

I'm not sure if a better Heisman moment could have been scripted at the end of the Auburn game! That, and the super performance against Georgia had to have been classic Heisman material instead of running up huge #s against inferior teams during the season!
Think about it this way:
If Burrows had been with the quality team as Alabama this year, would he have gone undefeated, and his #s been as strong as Youngs?.....Think about putting this year's Alabama's Oline in front of him and see how he'd come out!
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5918 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:16 am to
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This was one of the weakest and most uninteresting group of Heisman finalists that I can remember in recent history. Had barely even heard of Huthcinson and Pickett…and Stroud is definitely not the star like some of the other OSU QBs we’ve seen in the past. Weak competition.

Compare to Joe Burrow’s class: Chase Young, Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts. All freaking studs.



This is a weak year for college football. I’ve said it repeatedly. It is still true even though my team has managed to ascend to #1 entering the playoffs.

I don’t think any of these teams in this playoff field could beat a single prior CFP champion. Young spent most of the season as a frontrunner but everyone was basically begging for anyone to give them something to latch onto as a signature moment. Young answered that call in the last 3 weeks of the season and turned a weak but competitive field into one of the bigger blowouts.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:19 am to
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TigerFan244


This fricking idiot.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:19 am to
Alabama isn't responsible for the competition Skippy

Beside Bama is trying to rebuild from 2020.

Oh, how did your rebuild go from 2019?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24747 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:20 am to
Bammers only win in down years Pawl!!!
Posted by TigerFan244
Member since Jan 2012
2593 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:20 am to
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Diego Ricardo


Wow…a reasonable acknowledgment from a Gump. What is happening here?!? Have an upvote!
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:22 am to
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Now go compare the strength of schedule and the teams those yards and TDs were achieved against.

Lol. The goal posts move again.

You go ahead and find those numbers, I'll bet you'll find SOS and SoR are more comparable than you think, and your comment is reductionist if trying to compare the two QBs

2019 LSU led in offensive experience and overall playmakers. Burrow was 23 and a 5th year player. Bryce just turned 20 this past summer and is a 1st yr starter in a system under a new OC with multiple new position coaches, playing in an offense that lost the majority of all its production. Bama didn't have the run game to offset the pass that Burrow enjoyed, nor the depth of explosive playmakers (3+ NFL starters) at WR and solid TE play. OL play was a weakness for each team, but Bama has a line that is still unsettled, so I'll give Burrow the edge in support there. Add in Bama's injury, Inconsistency, and penalties, etc. And it only challenged an already challenged rebuilding team all the more.

The season was put on Bryce's arm to win, and he played pretty well. His #s match well to Burrow's production, which is without question one of the greatest seasons ever. No need to downplay a great season by a great young man.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:25 am to
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This is a weak year for college football.

It really is, which fed into the whole "if not now, then when" narrative all season (and preseason as most saw this coming) for UGA."

Certainly the weakest CFP in the era.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 9:29 am to
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Congrats Bryce Young. But

Neve change, Tiger fans. Never change.
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