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re: College Athletics needs a fundamental overhaul.

Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19280 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:44 am to
Title 9 should be eliminated"? It's a Federal LAW, not a NCAA rule.Who decides which 8 sports get cut? Nothing to do with being triggered. This is just dumb, none of it will ever happen.In a million years.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:48 am to
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Title 9 should be eliminated. This is nothing but a liberal feel good law that bankrupts college Athletics.


Maybe athletics shouldn’t be seen as a revenue generating system. Great when it does, but otherwise...
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41256 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:50 am to
I didn't think race was a big deal when I played in the 80's and the team was mostly black back then, and I still don't think it should be. But when you have black players saying things like I won't play unless the coach apologizes for wearing a t-shirt of a news organization, or saying he won't play unless a state changes it's flag, I'd say you are just burying your head in the sand if you don't think race has anything to do with the current climate of college sports.

I don't know what is going to happen, but the media is giving these kids a lot of power to do almost anything they want politically with no recourse, so long as you are on the left side of the spectrum. The boosters are only going to put up with so much before they stop giving money to the programs. It is going to be interesting to see.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41256 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:52 am to
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Maybe athletics shouldn’t be seen as a revenue generating system. Great when it does, but otherwise...


I agree, and I agree with the spirit of title IX, but not the way they apply it.
Posted by SEC7070
Member since Aug 2019
979 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:54 am to
What part of my thread didn't you understand. I said "This is nothing but a liberal feel good LAW". LAW LAW LAW.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35895 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 9:54 am to
This is actually a decent line of thinking

Reality is a thing

Upvote by me
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:08 am to
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Reality is a thing


Getting rid of title IX isn't close to reality. And reducing CFB scholarships to
cut costs when it's your biggest revenue generator?

If P5 schools are in financial trouble it's because they're spending millions on huge bloated staffs,fired coaches and multi million dollar facility "upgrades"

This is the "reality" of some of these schools.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17139 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:13 am to
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To be truly pure college athletics should drop scholarships altogether and go to real students playing the various sports and force leagues like the NFL to fund a developmental or minor league instead of getting it for free from the colleges.

Calling the current college football and basketball players student athletes is a freaking joke. Not that I'm blaming the players, it's what th


Academic scholarships. Listening to a lot of these guys in postgame interviews is incredibly cringeworthy.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:19 am to
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I'd say you are just burying your head in the sand if you don't think race has anything to do with the current climate of college sports.


It's not so much race as it is politics and "social activism" and I don't think a few athletes from the PAC 12 and their idiotic demands represents the vast majority of P5 black athletes.

What's their alternative to P5 CFB or even
CBB? Sorry,none are comparable to what they have now.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

To be truly pure college athletics should drop scholarships altogether and go to real students playing the various sports and force leagues like the NFL to fund a developmental or minor league instead of getting it for free from the colleges.

Calling the current college football and basketball players student athletes is a freaking joke. Not that I'm blaming the players, it's what the system has turned into that's outrageous

Amen, time to for universities to stop sacrificing dignity and standards to be good at sportsball
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:25 am to
frick that
There should be 100 football scholarships
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:28 am to
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Calling the current college football and basketball players student athletes is a freaking joke. Not that I'm blaming the players, it's what the system has turned into that's outrageous



How so? They are students and they are athletes.
Posted by gambetti
Rojava
Member since Sep 2017
1136 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:28 am to
Honestly, what the f are you even talking about? Get off the weirdo comment boards or talk radio or wherever you are getting this trash.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35895 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:30 am to
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Getting rid of title IX isn't close to reality.


And it should be. That was the point. Reality. Money doesn't grow on trees. "Fairness" is in the eye of the beholder, and you're of the mindset that screaming pissed off leftists simply cannot be told "no"


quote:

And reducing CFB scholarships to
cut costs when it's your biggest revenue generator?


Good point on that in regard to P5's, but the non-P5's aren't able to be included in your equation. The ramifications of the OP's line of thinking also plays well moving down the line to 1AA and DII


Numbers don't deal with what the OP termed as "feel good" stuff, and he is right about that. We certainly want girls to have many opportunities as well, but at what point does the well run dry, especially with non-P5's?


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35895 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:31 am to
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I Bleed Garnet





communist
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35895 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:32 am to
yep

something along these lines
Posted by PikeBishop
Bristol, TN
Member since Feb 2014
975 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:37 am to
I have no idea what these ADs are gonna do to cut costs. I've read comments from some of these guys saying they are losing $50 million (or more) out of their budget.

So what do you do? Something is gonna have to give, that's for sure.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42458 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:40 am to
Will be the biggest thing to come out of pandemic
You can’t expect football and basketball to pay for everything else
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:51 am to
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And it should be.


Major policy changes like that take a lot of political capital. The party that would currently presumably be pushing for that won’t have that kind of political capital until at least 4 years of an opposition party presidency, and that’s assuming they do nothing but save up (unlikely).

In other words, it’s so improbable that it’s not even worth entertaining the possibility. Amending and revising is realistic, but likely not going to be a strategic priority.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35895 posts
Posted on 8/22/20 at 10:54 am to
non-P5's simply and abruptly shutting the hell down over finances is not improbable
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