re: CFB Program Rankings

Solid analysis, great post.

Factored by the exact same thing that measures SOS on a year by year basis

You are very defensive here

Your ranking is fun and different

But when it leads to a team with more nattys, a higher win percentage, a higher schedule strength ranking, more top 10 finishes, more years ranked, more bowl wins, more major bowl wins being ranked lower, I think it has clear holes

The higher ranked team led in nothing measurable besides recent success. I think that shows the weighting is too heavy for an all time ranking.

I am saying this as someone whose team benefits more than any other by you adding the recency weighting


No big deal, still good work by you

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BEFORE 2000, lsu was top 13 all time in wins. make of that what you will

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Don't think this is correct.You guys are currently 16th
and in 2000 you were coming off one of your worst decades ever aND '00 to '09 was one of your best along with solid seasons in '10 to '17.

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You are very defensive here

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No, not at all. You seem to think pulling an SOS rating out of thin air for every team in every season in the history of college football is some small task that can be achieved with a click of the button. When asked to produce this "thing" as you call it, you now deflect.

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when it leads to a team with more nattys, a higher win percentage, a higher schedule strength ranking, more top 10 finishes, more years ranked, more bowl wins, more major bowl wins being ranked lower, I think it has clear holes

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How about some examples here?

You could be talking about Tennessee. They obviously are more accomplished historically than many teams rated above them. But you can't play garbage football for 15 years and expect to stay near the top.

If you think all years should be rated the exact same, then you aren't going to like these rankings. If you believe that recent accomplishments should carry more weight than accomplishments 50+ years ago, then these rankings should make good sense.

For some reason, you don't see a problem with Tennessee being penalized for their play from 2002-2017, yet you think LSU should get a pass for playing garbage football for the better part of 25 seasons from 1975-1999.

It doesn't work both ways.

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The higher ranked team led in nothing measurable besides recent success.

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Again, you only like to point this out when it negatively affects your team. How about compare LSU with Tennessee:

ALL-TIME WINS:
833- Tennessee
787- LSU (this is a fairly significant difference BTW)

All-TIME WIN%:
67.73%- Tennessee
65.0%- LSU

ALL-TIME AP POINTS:
686- Tennessee (#9 all time)
633- LSU (#11 all-time)

TOP 10 FINISHES
23- Tennessee
21- LSU

BOWL GAMES PLAYED
52- Tennessee
49- LSU

BOWL WINS
28- Tennessee
25- LSU

SEC CHAMPIOSHIPS
13- Tennessee
11- LSU

Now going by your logic, Tennessee is without a doubt the better program, right? I mean they lead in all 7 categories listed above so it would be flawed for anyone to think that LSU's program was better, right? That's what your logic would say.

However, according to my rankings through 2017, LSU ranks #11 with 577 points to Tennessee coming in at #14 with 514 points. That's actually a fairly significant gap.

I never saw you complaining though about LSU being ranked ahead of Tennessee. You seem to nit-pick the order of other teams but look the other way when LSU comes out ahead.

The reason LSU comes out ahead in my rankings is 1) They have one more National Title (and many have complained about me rewarding National Titles with too many points) and 2) Because LSU has been quite strong during the past 17 seasons while Tennessee has been hot garbage.

So do you think I'm wrong to rank LSU ahead of Tennessee?

He's not wrong, though. Anytime Georgia isn't given the mountain of respect you think they should be given you come running, pants drenched with piss, to try and talk them up.

Win the championship or go home, period. No one cares about second place.

If it’s a legit slight, there would be no argument for me to make. Anytime flawed reasoning is used or an incorrect statement is made, there is no reason to let it slide, and Thankfully folks like you and shaft make plenty of terrible points that are easily refutable.

This is partially true.

In your case, you don’t even try to make points about football. All you do trash talk like a clueless child, so what is there to refute? You are the epitome of zero substance.

In regards to straws, he spent all of 2018 making incorrect points about uga that were easily refutable.

I know where it is. Go to it and bump it with all all the great points you made. Surely the list is long based upon the way you talk, right? “Something fricky is going to happen” is where you took it. I remember that.