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Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:18 am
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Ole Miss: How you feel about this hire likely depends on how you feel about Kiffin, who is a polarizing figure. If Ole Miss is hiring the guy who was in charge at Tennessee and USC, this probably isn't going to work. If Ole Miss is getting the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches graduate, the coach who took over a dormant FAU program and won two conference titles in three years, this could work. Frankly, I don't know how it will go. It could be great, it could be a complete disaster. Ole Miss is not an easy job, and I don't know what better coach is out there the Rebels could have reasonably been hoping to land. So, because of that, it's hard to give this hire anything other than an A. Grade: A
MSU: As far as name and brand recognition, there's no denying that Mississippi State upgraded here. Leach is a name well-known throughout the college football world, and this might be the best possible hire at this stage of the year. Still, I have some concerns. Joe Moorhead was a bad fit, and I'm not convinced Leach is significantly better. I'm also concerned about Leach's recruiting, as he's never been the most dogged on the recruiting trail. That worked out fine at Texas Tech and Wazzu, but will a more laid-back approach talent accumulation work in the SEC? Grade: B
Mizzou: Drinkwitz has been considered a rising star in the coaching world ever since he came up from the high school ranks with Gus Malzahn. He just led Appalachian State to a Sun Belt title, but it's hard to know how much credit Drinkwitz deserves for it. He inherited a program that Satterfield built, and was only in Boone for a season, so we have no idea how Drink will perform when a program is truly his. Grade: B
Arkie: It's hard to think that Arkansas' plan when it fired Chad Morris during his second year to hire Pittman, but here we are. Pittman was the associate head coach and offensive line coach at Georgia, but spent three seasons at Arkansas. He's never been a coordinator, let alone a head coach at the FBS level, but is considered an excellent recruiter. It could work, but it's hard to be excited by the move. Grade: C
Ole Miss: How you feel about this hire likely depends on how you feel about Kiffin, who is a polarizing figure. If Ole Miss is hiring the guy who was in charge at Tennessee and USC, this probably isn't going to work. If Ole Miss is getting the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches graduate, the coach who took over a dormant FAU program and won two conference titles in three years, this could work. Frankly, I don't know how it will go. It could be great, it could be a complete disaster. Ole Miss is not an easy job, and I don't know what better coach is out there the Rebels could have reasonably been hoping to land. So, because of that, it's hard to give this hire anything other than an A. Grade: A
MSU: As far as name and brand recognition, there's no denying that Mississippi State upgraded here. Leach is a name well-known throughout the college football world, and this might be the best possible hire at this stage of the year. Still, I have some concerns. Joe Moorhead was a bad fit, and I'm not convinced Leach is significantly better. I'm also concerned about Leach's recruiting, as he's never been the most dogged on the recruiting trail. That worked out fine at Texas Tech and Wazzu, but will a more laid-back approach talent accumulation work in the SEC? Grade: B
Mizzou: Drinkwitz has been considered a rising star in the coaching world ever since he came up from the high school ranks with Gus Malzahn. He just led Appalachian State to a Sun Belt title, but it's hard to know how much credit Drinkwitz deserves for it. He inherited a program that Satterfield built, and was only in Boone for a season, so we have no idea how Drink will perform when a program is truly his. Grade: B
Arkie: It's hard to think that Arkansas' plan when it fired Chad Morris during his second year to hire Pittman, but here we are. Pittman was the associate head coach and offensive line coach at Georgia, but spent three seasons at Arkansas. He's never been a coordinator, let alone a head coach at the FBS level, but is considered an excellent recruiter. It could work, but it's hard to be excited by the move. Grade: C
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:20 am to allin2010
YESSSSIIIIRRRR
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:21 am to allin2010
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If Ole Miss is hiring the guy who was in charge at Tennessee and USC, this probably isn't going to work. If Ole Miss is getting the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches graduate, the coach who took over a dormant FAU program and won two conference titles in three years, this could work.
I guess they forgot that UT actually won under Kiff and Butch tore down that damn wall brick by brick.
It's also a good point that he has been to Saban's rehab clinic and grew up a bit and learned how to lead FAU to some success.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:23 am to allin2010
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Arkie: It's hard to think that Arkansas' plan when it fired Chad Morris during his second year to hire Pittman, but here we are. Pittman was the associate head coach and offensive line coach at Georgia, but spent three seasons at Arkansas. He's never been a coordinator, let alone a head coach at the FBS level, but is considered an excellent recruiter. It could work, but it's hard to be excited by the move. Grade: C
Oh look another arse clown looking at our hire at surface value. He could pass as a rantard.
And you dickweed that's agreeing with him and about to reply to my post saying he's right just proves my point.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:26 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:39 am to allin2010
My guess: their worst grade might well end up being the best HC. Pittman seems very Orgeron-like; hire good coordinators and let them do their job.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:41 am to allin2010
I'd agree with pretty much all of this except I would grade the Pittman hire a D or F.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:44 am to allin2010
Kiffin an A? For hiring prolific serial killer DJ Durkin?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:49 am to Stacker
Stacker, it's not fair to Arkansas to grade Pittman's hire a D/F while everyone else gets an A.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:51 am to allin2010
No one is ever right on these coaching hire takes.
Media judges everything based on splash. Truth is most of these hires won’t work out the way they are expected to.
Media judges everything based on splash. Truth is most of these hires won’t work out the way they are expected to.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:55 am to PorkSammich
It's all splash based. It'll change in a few years.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:59 am to PorkSammich
Pittman gets an I. His work is incomplete. More will be known in 3 weeks
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:59 am to PorkSammich
They didn't consider that Leach isn't going anywhere and Kiffin can't wait to leave. Leach will never get an offer at a top tier school because he'll be in his 60 by time, but if in 3 years Lane wins 10 games he's definitely jumping ship.
MSU has their coach for the next 10 seasons. He'll improve their offense, make them fun to watch, produce some star QBs, and win 8+ games consistently. For what they want he's the perfect hire.
MSU has their coach for the next 10 seasons. He'll improve their offense, make them fun to watch, produce some star QBs, and win 8+ games consistently. For what they want he's the perfect hire.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:00 am to AmyJ
Everybody didn't get an A...some B's mixed in there as well. Drinkwitz probably should be a B-/C. Pittman has absolutely dick of a head coach resume.
Arkansas is the only school in the entire nation that would purposefully nuke their football program. They hard passed on Mike Norvell 2 years ago who is now at Florida State. They hard passed on Kiffin and Leach both at least once. They deserve what's coming for them which is continued bottom of the SEC.
Arkansas is the only school in the entire nation that would purposefully nuke their football program. They hard passed on Mike Norvell 2 years ago who is now at Florida State. They hard passed on Kiffin and Leach both at least once. They deserve what's coming for them which is continued bottom of the SEC.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:01 am to allin2010
Turrible
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:03 am to Stacker
Stacker,
Just because we didn't hire Leach or Lane doesn't mean that we deserve what's coming. That is the most ignorant/stupid thing to say and believe me, you're a bigot a straight up liar!
Just because we didn't hire Leach or Lane doesn't mean that we deserve what's coming. That is the most ignorant/stupid thing to say and believe me, you're a bigot a straight up liar!
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:05 am to Stacker
Stacker,
maybe you're just purposely being a dick. Can't wait until both Leach and Lane fail. It'll be EPIC for me. Just watch and see!
maybe you're just purposely being a dick. Can't wait until both Leach and Lane fail. It'll be EPIC for me. Just watch and see!
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:07 am to allin2010
Given Moo State's expectations...7-8 wins a year with the occasional 9-10 wins (coinciding with a big time conference upset or two / bowl win), the Leach hire is an A imho.
He will go 4-0 or 3-1 in non-conference play, and pull down between 2 and 6 conference wins. As for recruiting, he will have plenty of 3 stars at State to work with...just because they are in the SEC.
As for Joey F., Ole Miss is pretty much akin to Moo State, just ever so slightly better positioned due to it's proximity to Memphis. That being said, if the Memphis Tigers are rolling, then Ole Miss may actually lose a recruit or two to them...especially if the Rebs/Black Bears are down at the time. Still, success will be had, especially if he can drags his nuts on Saban's chin...even if it only once. That would open a lot of recruit's doors. The hire is an A in my book.
Mizzou...the grade is a B.
They may have hired a great coach. However, they may have hired a coach that was handed the keys to a stacked team. I like the hire, but, Missouri isn't a hot bed for recruiting, so he will have an opportunity to prove himself pretty quickly.
Arkansas...also a B. I like this hire too. The problem, imo, is that Arkansas has the same recruiting limitations that Mizzou does. Adding the Aggies to the conference has really hurt Arkansas on the recruiting trail. The upside is that the hawgs have access to a lot of cash. If used wisely, the recruiting gap can be overcome.
My overall take...
If these coaches can get on a three game winning streak in the Egg Bowl, and the Arky/Mizzou game, they will probably get new deals while the opposing coach's seat gets hot.
He will go 4-0 or 3-1 in non-conference play, and pull down between 2 and 6 conference wins. As for recruiting, he will have plenty of 3 stars at State to work with...just because they are in the SEC.
As for Joey F., Ole Miss is pretty much akin to Moo State, just ever so slightly better positioned due to it's proximity to Memphis. That being said, if the Memphis Tigers are rolling, then Ole Miss may actually lose a recruit or two to them...especially if the Rebs/Black Bears are down at the time. Still, success will be had, especially if he can drags his nuts on Saban's chin...even if it only once. That would open a lot of recruit's doors. The hire is an A in my book.
Mizzou...the grade is a B.
They may have hired a great coach. However, they may have hired a coach that was handed the keys to a stacked team. I like the hire, but, Missouri isn't a hot bed for recruiting, so he will have an opportunity to prove himself pretty quickly.
Arkansas...also a B. I like this hire too. The problem, imo, is that Arkansas has the same recruiting limitations that Mizzou does. Adding the Aggies to the conference has really hurt Arkansas on the recruiting trail. The upside is that the hawgs have access to a lot of cash. If used wisely, the recruiting gap can be overcome.
My overall take...
If these coaches can get on a three game winning streak in the Egg Bowl, and the Arky/Mizzou game, they will probably get new deals while the opposing coach's seat gets hot.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:42 am to allin2010
Those actually make sense.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:00 pm to hawgfaninc
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And you dickweed that's agreeing with him and about to reply to my post saying he's right just proves my point.
But... he's right.
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