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re: Can we please discuss this "eye test" advantage Bama supposedly has...
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:12 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:12 pm to BHMKyle
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Yeah. Beating only the #20 team is a joke!!! But beating the #17 and #23 team, now THAT'S IMPRESSIVE, BABY!!!
It's so wild to see people act like a national title team losing by 30+ points to a 7-5 team is just a thing that happens. It would literally be the worst loss for a National Champion in the modern era. And, it wouldn't even be their only loss! Hell, it wouldn't even be their only loss by more than 2 TDs!
AND, with all that, nobody is even arguing they were flat out not eligible. It was razor thin and they barely didn't get in.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The same committee that says Bama is #4, says Michigan State is #16 and LSU is #17.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:12 pm to allin2010
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Time to get rid of conference championships
It appears that way. They are almost meaningless now. Hell, some programs even benefit from not playing in them under the current system.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:13 pm to BHMKyle
They are Bama. They have been known cheating POS since Bear "I have to sign everyone so nobody can get players and that's the only way I can win" Bryant.
Like I said before. Have you taken a drive down Dodge Charger Avenue?
Like I said before. Have you taken a drive down Dodge Charger Avenue?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We're really talking about beating up on Michigan State as the high ceiling win that should propel Ohio State to the CFB
No, no one said that. Beating #6 Wisconsin and #9 Penn State is their best accomplishment. Beating the #16 team by 45 points is their #3 accomplishment.... Sorry, there are a lot of "accomplishments" for them to note. Bama on the other hand, we're all still waiting for their best one.
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Really? Michigan State?
So 45-point win over the #16 team is not good enough to be considered an accomplishment? This coming from the same person who just said that Bama's stability in beating 4-8 teams like Tennessee and Vandy was their best accomplishment. I have seen it all!
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:13 pm to BHMKyle
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Yeah. Beating only the #20 team is a joke!!! But beating the #17 and #23 team, now THAT'S IMPRESSIVE, BABY!!!
Yes. When comparing two teams with identical records. Is it that you are scared to play Bama? I mean thats ok if it is. No one is going to fault you. Its understandable. Just be honest about it though.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:15 pm to bayou85
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Not the 1st time this happened.
Exactly. We now have a clear trend. Sucks for CFB.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:16 pm to BHMKyle
Let it go man. Alabama is a top 4 team. No other team has a case over them.
You can talk resumes all day, it's all subjective.
Ohio State might have more impressive wins than Bama, but they have a felony conviction for embezzlement ( 31 pt loss to an unathletic Iowa team). It was the deciding factor. You disagree and that's OK.
Wisconsin doesn't have an argument they didn't schedule a power 5 OOC opponent. The entire Big 10 does not have 1 impressive OOC victory.
There is no way to validate the strength of any of the BIG teams. The teams that did schedule good OOC opponents all were embarrassed. Michigan State by Notre Dame, Ohio State by Oklahoma, Northwestern blown out by Duke etc.
You can talk resumes all day, it's all subjective.
Ohio State might have more impressive wins than Bama, but they have a felony conviction for embezzlement ( 31 pt loss to an unathletic Iowa team). It was the deciding factor. You disagree and that's OK.
Wisconsin doesn't have an argument they didn't schedule a power 5 OOC opponent. The entire Big 10 does not have 1 impressive OOC victory.
There is no way to validate the strength of any of the BIG teams. The teams that did schedule good OOC opponents all were embarrassed. Michigan State by Notre Dame, Ohio State by Oklahoma, Northwestern blown out by Duke etc.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:17 pm to BHMKyle
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Beating #6 Wisconsin and #9 Penn State is their best accomplishment.
Ohio State has 2 wins better than Alabama's best win (Wisconsin and Penn State). Ohio State has what would be the worst loss of a potential national champion possibly ever. Ever. That's not really debatable. Ohio State also has a 2nd loss, by 14+ points, at home.
Alabama has zero embarrassing losses and beat every unranked team they played, most of them convincingly. Alabama has 2 Top 25 wins, the best being #17 by 14 points. Alabama has 1 loss, by 12 points on the road at the #8 team. Alabama does not have a 2nd loss, though they played multiple teams ranked roughly the same as Ohio State's 2nd loss.
So. Losses to Auburn and Oklahoma even out. Wins over Michigan State and LSU even out. At this point you are down to deciding whether wins over Wisconsin and Michigan State and a 30+ point loss to Iowa are a net positive or negative for Ohio State.
Again, you seem to think the Iowa thing is the same as Clemson losing to Syracuse or Oklahoma losing to Iowa State. I don't think anyone else sees it that way.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:17 pm to BhamDore
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felony conviction for embezzlement
Where did this stupid analogy come from?
It's stupid.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Ohio State has 2 wins better than Alabama's best win.
*Three.
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Again, you seem to think the Iowa thing is the same as Clemson losing to Syracuse or Oklahoma losing to Iowa State.
An easy argument can be made that both of those losses were worse.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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*Three.
LOL
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An easy argument can be made that both of those losses were worse.
You better have Johnnie Cochran making it.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:20 pm to TigerFan4040
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Ohio State certainly has its faults as well
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The understatement of the year as it pertains to this thread.
I hate that bama is in, but I can't disagree with it.
Yeah, getting blown out by 31 to unranked Iowa in November not only doesn't pass the eye test but may well be one of the worst eyesore losses of a team that even finishes in the Top 10 going back a pretty long time.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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An easy argument can be made that both of those losses were worse.
You got curb stomped by Iowa AND you lost by double digits at home.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:23 pm to R11
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So basically Wisconsin got penalized for having to play in a conf champ game.
They lost by 6.
Alabama didn't win it's division much less it's conf , got a week off and moved up In the poll without even playing.
It's bull shite and total Bama bias.
I don't see how anyone not wearing crimson glasses can't see this.
It's an opinion of who you think is better.
Opinion. Not merit. Eye test.
Best two wins came against 2 teams with 7 combined losses.
Yet the "look" better.
60-0 vandy ! Woo hoo
Mercer in the house!
All of this is true. But, if Alabama and Wisconsin were going to play this weekend and your life depended on whether or not you correctly chose the winning team, which one would you pick? I rest my case.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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You better have Johnnie Cochran making it.
Well, for starters, Iowa beat Iowa State at home.
Syracuse? A 6-6 C-USA team managed to beat them.
If Ohio State had a win over Oklahoma, we're not even having this conversation.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If Ohio State had a win over Oklahoma, we're not even having this conversation.
Wouldn't need Johnnie to make that argument
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:26 pm to StopRobot
You live in Mobile, AL.
I win.
I win.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If Ohio State had a win over Oklahoma, we're not even having this conversation.
Youre correct but you dont hence why you are not in the playoff
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:28 pm to allin2010
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Time to get rid of conference championships... would have been
Clemson
Auburn
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Even with the 2 victories, Auburn would not have gotten in over both Georgia and Alabama in this scenario.
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