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re: Can John Mateer make a Year 2 jump

Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:37 am to
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:37 am to
If Mateer could keep his composure he’d be a lot scarier to opponents. Tends to panic and make bad decisions. That can be solved with experience… we’ll see.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3550 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:16 am to
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If Mateer could keep his composure he’d be a lot scarier to opponents. Tends to panic and make bad decisions.


Unfortunately, he had good reason to panic on a lot of occasions.

I think he can do a lot better if his supporting cast is better.

Yes, he made a lot of mistakes... but he also made something out of nothing on a lot of occasions.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3707 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:52 am to
I expect he will have huge numbers. The the TE situation has gone from bad to great. The run game is back. The WR group is improved. And Mateer is not recovering from hand surgery on his throwing hand. He is a good bet to win the Heisman..
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
3970 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 10:58 am to
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I expect he will have huge numbers

of interceptions
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24246 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:31 pm to
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He didn’t mention but Joe Burrow improved greatly his second year at LSU


Over the past 5 years, more 2nd year SEC QBs either stayed the same or regressed than made noticeable improvements. The extra year of experience does not automatically equate to better performance.

When it comes to Joe Burrow it is impossible to know if his improvement came because he really got that much better. Or if he simply looked better because Chase and Jefferson were improved and Joe Brady was calling plays.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
1678 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:21 pm to
OU will not be very good this year, and he will get knocked down and picked off a lot.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
7134 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:26 pm to
I wouldn't bet on it. He might, but I wouldn't. Not sure what Sorsby would do.
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1378 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:55 pm to
Would not surprised me.
Posted by Wishbone85
Member since Nov 2024
2503 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:33 pm to
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 OUwill not be very good this year, and he will 


Just curious how they will not be very good this year when they literally got better at every position this year after going to the playoffs last year. I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34325 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:37 pm to
Has he changed his god awful mechanics?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34325 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:38 pm to
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Just curious how they will not be very good this year when they literally got better at every position this year after going to the playoffs last year. I'll hang up and listen.


Literally every fanbase is saying how much better they are at every position. I’ve heard about a dozen podcasts from writers on different teams and they all say that.

Everyone is undefeated and has title hopes. Copy and paste every year
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30492 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
You are just blabbering. Take a look at returning production for SEC teams. OU is in top. Now add a healthier QB and the other tools. A reasonable person would say they have a chance to be better.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34325 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:55 pm to
So what’s your prediction? 12-0? 11-1?

Since they are so much better. Show your Vegas bet slip for the over of 10 wins since that’s what they had last year.

Vegas win total is 7.5, the 5th highest in the SEC and tied with 4 other SEC teams.


Teams can be better and have worse records. Especially when teams are replacing 30-40% of rosters. You never know. Each team has 3-4 games that were a coin flip.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
28816 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:58 pm to
Most QBs improve the most between year 1 and 2 of starting so seems like he should.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
30492 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:00 pm to
I have not decided our record. My question was if Mateer can make a 2nd year jump.

I will say our defense was stout and will only get better. On offense we return 75% of production but made some big additions to staff and players. That should only help Mateer imo.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34325 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:20 pm to
Maybe. Maybe not.

That’s the fun of it. Tenn, Mizzou, and LSU were all trash last year and looked like top 10 games on the schedule. Some top teams will disappoint and some predicted 6-6 will go 10-2

Posted by The_Giving_Tree
Member since Apr 2024
329 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:51 pm to
He’s a 5th year senior who didn’t win the starting job AT WASHINGTON STATE until midway through his junior year. He is what he is, you’ve already seen his best.

His “injury” wasnt what took him from being an “early season Heisman favorite”. What changed is he wasn’t playing good defenses early last year that could make him uncomfortable and than he started playing defenses with actual athletes. Texas rocked him.

It will be similar this year. Put up big numbers against defenses that lack the athletes. Look like what he is against the 4-5 teams that have a real defense. He is an above average D1 qb with a non-average skill set that can be used to put solid numbers btwn the 20s. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise

Honestly OU fans are setting themselves up for a big let-down. Yall are not nearly as good as you’re letting yourselves believe… within your own echo chamber. Remember I told you so.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:53 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
24246 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Take a look at returning production for SEC teams


That isn’t always a positive metric. Show me where returning production is correlated to success. The fact is that a high percentage of returning production can mean you have a bunch of guys who weren’t good enough to enter the draft or get huge NIL offers from other schools.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34325 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:13 am to
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That isn’t always a positive metric. Show me where returning production is correlated to success.


This!

This is the stupidest metric. Last year Arizona State, Oklahoma state and Clemson had the most returning production, and all 3 had worse years

In today’s world it’s such a crap shoot. Look at the Heisman preseason odds last year. Nuss, Sellers, Klubnick and Lagway were 4 of the 5 top odds and all 4 had shitty years and regressed.

You just never know.

Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3550 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 9:49 am to
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Literally every fanbase is saying how much better they are at every position. I’ve heard about a dozen podcasts from writers on different teams and they all say that.

Everyone is undefeated and has title hopes. Copy and paste every year


I laughed when I read this because it reminds me of what former OU SID Harold Keith used to say.... "Everybody is undefeated in August"...

But seriously... OU has reason for optimism.

1) Mateer and offense in second year
'2) Defense returns returns ten guys who started full or part time last year.
3) O line returns four of five starters after having a brand new line in '25.
4) Both RBs return
5) Portaled in a starting SEC O lineman for the one vacent spot... and two SEC TEs...one of whom was a starter at Florida.
6) Returning an all conference WR... and portaled in two other P4 wideouts.
7) Return both the first team all conference kicker and punter.

I could go on about the portal and freshmen and up and coming players... but that would be getting into the blue sky hopium stuff you mentioned.
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