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Can any SEC school really afford to fire their HC now?

Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17275 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:19 pm
With the current expected major downturn in AD finances, it appears to me that those programs on the hook for huge buyouts for their football staffs will be stuck with them no matter what the on-field results of the season, at least for 2020. Any appreciable decline in ad revenue/ticket sales/concessions will only make it harder to punish underachievers.

What say the rest of tRant?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68468 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:20 pm to
Not A&M
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94368 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:22 pm to
Gonna depend on what kind of hit attendance takes but I'd guess you're probably right, it's not gonna be the year for many athletic departments to pay buyouts. Even if it's coming from the booster's side, donations will likely be down there too.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13064 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:29 pm to
All SEC schools are either already having $$$ problems or will soon. Small attendances are gonna hurt bigtime whether it is by design or by choice. Without a reliable cure or a vaccine, many folks are not gonna gather in a huge crowd even outdoors in heat and humidity.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

With the current expected major downturn in AD finances, it appears to me that those programs on the hook for huge buyouts for their football staffs will be stuck with them no matter what the on-field results of the season, at least for 2020. Any appreciable decline in ad revenue/ticket sales/concessions will only make it harder to punish underachievers.

What say the rest of tRant?


Is it really the AD that pays these things? I'm certainly no expert on the topic, but it was my understanding the schools aren't usually the ones who pay the bulk of the coaches salary. I think officially Alabama plays Saban like $200k a year, and the other millions and millions comes from some separate organization.

AKA big donor money.

And it seems to me that if a big donor(s) wants a coach out, they can just pony up the cash at any time. Obviously the lower the buyout the more tempting it is and the higher buyouts may never get enough financial support to make happen.

So I'm not sure that it's really a matter of AD funding. Maybe someone else knows more on the topic and can shine some light on it. Even with the organization it's obviously not too far off the AD/school.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:57 pm to
UGA has a $100 million "rainy day fund" but that money will go fast without ANY revenue but could definitely get by on TV and CFB playoff/bowl revenue.

BTW our esteemed AD will not return the mandatory "donations" (Hartman fund) for season tix.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12751 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:05 pm to
What makes you think that?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41158 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:07 pm to
Vandy- this will be Mason's 7th season if doesn't have a winning season, hasn't had one yet, they can't keep him.

He would only have a year left on his extension, after this season, so money isn't an issue.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:38 pm to
Don’t think for a minute that Tennessee wouldn’t have jettisoned him in a second had Pruitt not had a bit of a turnaround. They would’ve issued Vol Bonds or borrowed from the Chinese. They ain’t skeered.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:43 pm to
You are right

This is why the Players need to strike for increased stipends and immediate, unpunished transfers after 2 yrs on campus

The NCAA & The Conferences would have to cave, can't risk more devastation to the Athl Dept finances with the massive debt on facilities that has to be paid

The Players in P5 FB & MBB have all the leverage, they'd be fools to not use it
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:49 pm to
Well... honestly... why would any program fire someone right now?

If you were going to fire someone you would have done it at the end of last season. If we play this season and there is reason to fire someone then you would have to assume that the finances are there to kick them to the curb as well.

So... if there is good reason to fire someone at the end of the next football season I can only assume any team in the conference would do so.

Hell, A&M would do so, hire Lou Holtz on a ten year 100 million dollar contract and brag about it.
Posted by PokeyTiger
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2020
1968 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:52 pm to
Lol you’re stuck with Gus
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21156 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:10 pm to
Why not? That is what we do best giving money away.
Posted by BigB123
Texas
Member since Dec 2018
985 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:18 pm to
Which coaches are likely to be on the chopping block anyway? Most of the ones with questionable coaches made changes this offseason. Vandy? South Carolina?
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:23 pm to
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Not A&M


We would be insane to fire Jimbo.

1-1 with O in first 2 years and rapid upward recruiting trajectory.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22551 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Don’t think for a minute that Tennessee wouldn’t have jettisoned him in a second had Pruitt not had a bit of a turnaround. They would’ve issued Vol Bonds or borrowed from the Chinese. They ain’t skeered.


The only thing that turned around at Tennessee after playing Alabama was getting to play a bunch of teams that didn't have winning records.

Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:47 pm to
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So I'm not sure that it's really a matter of AD funding.


Sure it is! You think the head coach’s salary is all they’re on the hook for? There are coordinators, assistants etc to pay out too.

You think the AD can withstand the loss of TV revenue? If the season is shortened the CBS/ESPN payouts will be reduced.

Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:48 pm to
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Gonna depend on what kind of hit attendance takes

Vanderbilt should be fine
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21156 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:48 pm to
I think boom is. If it wasn't for the Georgia win last year, I think he gets the axe.

Mason needs to get to a bowl or he gets the axe.

Gus needs to win nine or more games in the regular season and beat Alabama again or he gets the axe.

Dan is safe but he needs to have a big year at Florida or he will be on the warm seat next year.

Kirby is safe but he needs to get over the hump fast or he's seat gets a little warm.

Sam pittman is very safe

Lane Kiffin is very safe.

Mike leach is very safe.

Jeremy Pruit is off the warm seat and is in a good position.

Stoops is very safe and consistent.

Nick Saban will coach until he dies or is forced to retire.

Jimbo needs to show some results or next year begins with him on the warm seat.

Coach o got off the warm seat and is very safe.

Drinkwitz is very safe.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9234 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

The only thing that turned around at Tennessee after playing Alabama was getting to play a bunch of teams that didn't have winning records.


I wish I could say more to this.
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