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re: Buy/Sell: Mullen will be fired in 3 years
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:31 pm to TonyMontana
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:31 pm to TonyMontana
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:31 pm to soleckma
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Your name is Mullenboys lol. He was a great coach for you all. You’re Miss State for frick sake
Did you actually take time to read my replies in this thread or did you just assume shite?
Secondly, not changing my name yet or people will think I'm an alt. Will do in time though.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 10:34 pm to MullenBoys
Keep it man. A name means nothing and ppl know you around here.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 11:02 pm to JamalSanders
The east got exponentially tougher with the hires of Mullen and Pruitt.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 5:43 am to Random MsState Fan
Nope. He will do well at UF and the State posters that are throwing him under the bus will look like fools.
Dude is a good coach. He was never going anywhere in Starkville. Moving to UF was a move that 150% of the coaches would do.
Stop being salty and just be happy he was there for the time he was
Dude is a good coach. He was never going anywhere in Starkville. Moving to UF was a move that 150% of the coaches would do.
Stop being salty and just be happy he was there for the time he was
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:02 am to Random MsState Fan
You guys were lucky to have Mullen as long as you did and your still butt hurt that he left for a better job .
Sell he will last more then 3 years unless the pressure at UF is to much for him .
Sell he will last more then 3 years unless the pressure at UF is to much for him .
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:09 am to tjv305
Mullen got tired of fried catfish & hush puppies as the only menu items at the best eateries.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:18 am to Random MsState Fan
Sell. New state coach being fired? Buy
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:23 am to aufbfan
Imagine how good Mullen could have been at State if he hadn't been half checked out the whole time he was there
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:36 am to Random MsState Fan
So if Mullen is so bad, but MSU kept him for 9 years, what does that say about your program? It seems to indicate you guys settle long term for shitty coaches, which probably means that you accept your fate as a bad program. So just because a shitty coach leaves, of his own accord I will note, that still leaves yours a shitty program.
Are you sure this is a point you want to make?
Are you sure this is a point you want to make?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:43 am to MSHawg1
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Sell. He will succeed just like he succeeded at MSU. The guy can coach
But can't recruit. Sell. He's done in 4 due to buyout being guaranteed 12M regardless of length of contract left
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:54 am to Random MsState Fan
Buy.
He will do ok with similar or 1-game better overall records he had at State, but he won't be able to keep up with Georgia, Florida State, or Miami and the fans will turn on him. The SEC East is easier than the West but he also has to play Florida State OOC every year, which Mullen didn't at State. His lack of signing enough of the best recruits away from SEC or Florida schools will cost him.
I would say 4 years but the speed that the Florida fans turned on McElwain shows it might be only 3 years for Mullen.
He will do ok with similar or 1-game better overall records he had at State, but he won't be able to keep up with Georgia, Florida State, or Miami and the fans will turn on him. The SEC East is easier than the West but he also has to play Florida State OOC every year, which Mullen didn't at State. His lack of signing enough of the best recruits away from SEC or Florida schools will cost him.
I would say 4 years but the speed that the Florida fans turned on McElwain shows it might be only 3 years for Mullen.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:03 am to Random MsState Fan
Another day, another butt hurt MSU fan starting a Mullen post. Sad that you can't get over losing your GOAT coach but you have to move on.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:13 am to UFMatt
Mullen was great for our program. I'm grateful we had him for 9 years. However, 9 years is a long time for any coach. It gives you enough data to nitpick their flaws (Bama fans do so with Saban). And Mullen has flaws. But overall, he is a good coach and should always be fairly successful.
While I'm glad he was here, I'm not terribly sad he left. He's an a-hole. We always knew this, but we knew he was "our" a-hole, so we didn't care too much. Now that he's gone, he is just an a-hole. And he has proven this by the way he left, and the things he's said since he left. 99.9% of humans don't act that way. He's too sure of himself. If he doesn't overcome that, it could eventually be his downfall.
But, again, he's a good coach and should excel at Florida. I am grateful we had him. No one is perfect, and he was/is good enough in my book.
While I'm glad he was here, I'm not terribly sad he left. He's an a-hole. We always knew this, but we knew he was "our" a-hole, so we didn't care too much. Now that he's gone, he is just an a-hole. And he has proven this by the way he left, and the things he's said since he left. 99.9% of humans don't act that way. He's too sure of himself. If he doesn't overcome that, it could eventually be his downfall.
But, again, he's a good coach and should excel at Florida. I am grateful we had him. No one is perfect, and he was/is good enough in my book.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:23 am to TonyMontana
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Mullen was great for our program. I'm grateful we had him for 9 years. However, 9 years is a long time for any coach. It gives you enough data to nitpick their flaws (Bama fans do so with Saban). And Mullen has flaws. But overall, he is a good coach and should always be fairly successful.
While I'm glad he was here, I'm not terribly sad he left. He's an a-hole. We always knew this, but we knew he was "our" a-hole, so we didn't care too much. Now that he's gone, he is just an a-hole. And he has proven this by the way he left, and the things he's said since he left. 99.9% of humans don't act that way. He's too sure of himself. If he doesn't overcome that, it could eventually be his downfall.
But, again, he's a good coach and should excel at Florida. I am grateful we had him. No one is perfect, and he was/is good enough in my book.
Being an a-hole should be part of the UF job description:
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:27 am to Random MsState Fan
Sell, I think he will do fine at Florida
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:41 am to Random MsState Fan
Sell.
The guy won 69 games in 9 years at MSU. That's 7-8 games every year. AT frickING MSU in the SEC West, which from about 2009 until now has been the toughest goddamn division in CFB during one of the greatest dynasties in the modern era (Alabama). The SEC West (mostly Alabama, but Auburn too) won 6 national titles and lost 4 other title/play off games in that span. In other words, Dan Mullen was coaching at the historically worst school in the SEC west during a time in which the division had 9 straight years of legit national title contenders and 6 winners.
Now he gets to move to Florida, which has more talent and more fertile recruiting. He gets to coach in an easy division. His record against the SEC East at MSU was 15-6. He doesn't have to play Alabama and Auburn every year, who have been the only real national title contenders in the whole conference outside of LSU once and Georgia twice in the last 10 years.
So in other words, he has more talent, and an easier schedule.
I would bet he makes it more than 3 years.
The guy won 69 games in 9 years at MSU. That's 7-8 games every year. AT frickING MSU in the SEC West, which from about 2009 until now has been the toughest goddamn division in CFB during one of the greatest dynasties in the modern era (Alabama). The SEC West (mostly Alabama, but Auburn too) won 6 national titles and lost 4 other title/play off games in that span. In other words, Dan Mullen was coaching at the historically worst school in the SEC west during a time in which the division had 9 straight years of legit national title contenders and 6 winners.
Now he gets to move to Florida, which has more talent and more fertile recruiting. He gets to coach in an easy division. His record against the SEC East at MSU was 15-6. He doesn't have to play Alabama and Auburn every year, who have been the only real national title contenders in the whole conference outside of LSU once and Georgia twice in the last 10 years.
So in other words, he has more talent, and an easier schedule.
I would bet he makes it more than 3 years.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:46 am to Random MsState Fan
You’re like that dude who won’t stop talking about how great his GF is and then just rags on her when she leaves him.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:59 am to MullenBoys
This is the bottom line on Mullen:
He did a good job at State. He stabilized the program. He raised the floor. He didn't recruit well, but he developed the players he got and rallied the fan base early.
The problem is that he didn't really raise the ceiling. He got bowl eligible by playing 4 cupcakes and Kentucky every year. Outside Auburn 2014, he never really won any big games. He make questionable gameday decisions and tightened up in big games.
The reality, with benefit of hindsight, is that any coach with some competency can do what Mullen did at State. While pretty much everyone appreciates what he did, they don't appreciate how he left - lying to the team a week before begging for the UT and Florida jobs. They don't appreciate the lost focus while he searched for other jobs. They don't appreciate the way he stirred the pot and got out of town instead of seeing it through.
Pretty much everyone loves Moorhead because he has been better than Mullen in every way possible thus far. We will see if that translates to the field, but it is refreshing. State fans have earned the right to feel that way.
He did a good job at State. He stabilized the program. He raised the floor. He didn't recruit well, but he developed the players he got and rallied the fan base early.
The problem is that he didn't really raise the ceiling. He got bowl eligible by playing 4 cupcakes and Kentucky every year. Outside Auburn 2014, he never really won any big games. He make questionable gameday decisions and tightened up in big games.
The reality, with benefit of hindsight, is that any coach with some competency can do what Mullen did at State. While pretty much everyone appreciates what he did, they don't appreciate how he left - lying to the team a week before begging for the UT and Florida jobs. They don't appreciate the lost focus while he searched for other jobs. They don't appreciate the way he stirred the pot and got out of town instead of seeing it through.
Pretty much everyone loves Moorhead because he has been better than Mullen in every way possible thus far. We will see if that translates to the field, but it is refreshing. State fans have earned the right to feel that way.
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