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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:50 pm to RT1941
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RT1941
I only have one upvote to give, but it's the reason LSU needs to lockdown the state with regards to recruiting. Outside recruits are needed, but letting some get away isn't good.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:51 pm to meansonny
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meansonny
100% confirmed troll.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:54 pm to meansonny
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Sidewalk was the one saying that Saban and Kelly arent different.
I agree they are very similar
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You seem to be carrying his water for him.
No, he and I just have experience with both coaching our team
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It would make sense if some lsu fan tried to show examples of similarities to support sidewalk.
Okay I’ll give you some:
They both coach the whole program, not just the players and the coaches but everyone down to the ball boys and secretaries as well as the media and the fans. Every word they chose is calculated for maximum effect.
They both have an extreme attention to detail and demand their vision is executed or they’ll find someone else who will. This again goes for everyone not just the players or coaches.
Little to no sentimentality, the little bit that’s displayed publicly is generally put on. They aren’t overly tied to players or assistants (with a couple notable exceptions for both)
Both are likely sociopaths who thrive in the role of LSU coach as it’s unique because it’s much a political job as anything else. Not that every major head coaching job isn’t political, but it’s a bit different in Baton Rouge, the state capital where LSU football is the main event and politicians have a long history of interjecting themselves. Ironic considering the “fit” concerns for Kelly, because in this respect he’s actually a perfect fit.
Both are not only willing but able to make sharp deviations in any aspect of the program at the drop of a dime if they believe it’s the right thing to do.
How many more examples would you like?
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:27 pm to Imber
No one has ever said Brian Kelly can’t recruit or that Brian Kelly can’t win.
What everyone has always said is that he gets absolutely wrecked in every big game he’s ever been in.
His biggest post season win of all time is unironically the citrus bowl
What everyone has always said is that he gets absolutely wrecked in every big game he’s ever been in.
His biggest post season win of all time is unironically the citrus bowl
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Okay I’ll give you some:
They both coach the whole program, not just the players and the coaches but everyone down to the ball boys and secretaries as well as the media and the fans. Every word they chose is calculated for maximum effect.
They both have an extreme attention to detail and demand their vision is executed or they’ll find someone else who will. This again goes for everyone not just the players or coaches
That's a great argument to show BK really was responsible for what happened at Notre Dame.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:12 pm to Imber
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FTR I don’t remember threads about his ability to recruit other than last years lsu fans throwing a fit after last years class. Discussions about his personality meshing well in the south was discussed but that was a legitimate discussion.
There were numerous trolls on this board early in the cycle stating Marcus Freeman would out recruit Kelly this year. I don't imagine you were one of them, but there were several. Some of them are already in this thread.
Nope! It was that Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame would out recruit Brian Kelly when Kelly was the HC at Notre Dame. Compare Kelly recruits at Notre Dame and Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame. That is the whole point where Kelly didn't get the right key players to get the team to win a championship.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:38 pm to ManBearSharkReb
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No one has ever said Brian Kelly can’t recruit or that Brian Kelly can’t win.
I love the revisionist denials.
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What everyone has always said is that he gets absolutely wrecked in every big game he’s ever been in.
I mean we were also told he couldn't beat Saban.
It's hilarious that the biggest knock on Kelly is that he's 0-3 vs 3 eventual national champions.
Those teams went 41-1, the only coach who beat any of them was Kevin Sumlin.
Hell, 2018 Clemson beat Saban just as bad as they did Kelly.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:10 am to Imber
FWIW The difference between you and number one is the same difference as you and auburn at 17.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:11 am to Barstools
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FWIW The difference between you and number one is the same difference as you and auburn at 17.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:17 am to TrueLefty
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Nope! It was that Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame would out recruit Brian Kelly when Kelly was the HC at Notre Dame.
Absolutely false. But continue your revisionist history.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:25 am to Imber
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Nope! It was that Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame would out recruit Brian Kelly when Kelly was the HC at Notre Dame.
Absolutely false. But continue your revisionist history.
Even Ed Orgeron can get a top ten recruiting class at LSU. The point was recruiting from Notre Dame. Kelly sucks there and did okay but couldn't win championship there due to lack of key players. Now Freeman is the HC. Many on here said Freeman will do better than Kelly in recruiting at Notre Dame. Not about Kelly at LSU. Any HC can get a top 10 class at LSU! You must be dumb not to know that. Plus, LSU fans were saying recruiting at Notre Dame had qualification restriction.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:36 am
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:40 am to Imber
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Just clearing up a hypothesis that has been expressed repeatedly on this board.
... by LSU fans as a strawman to knock down.
He recruited well at ND. Just couldn't win anything with them.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:46 am to jonnyanony
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Just clearing up a hypothesis that has been expressed repeatedly on this board.
... by LSU fans as a strawman to knock down.
He recruited well at ND. Just couldn't win anything with them.
He was missing some key top players to get it done. Now we will wait and see what Freeman can do at Notre Dame. Plus, Kelly has been a HC for a while before getting the Notre Dame job. Freeman never had any HC experience when he got the HC job at Notre Dame. We are here to see if Kelly was holding the team back due to lack of top key players and his coaching. This has nothing to do with LSU. Freeman will be tested the same way. We will know how things go in about 4 or so years.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:53 am
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:17 am to Imber
Whoa. Alabama has more 4 and 5 stars than LSU has recruits.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:42 am to texag7
quote:Astrogliders got blown out last season by Shrimpy "Program Destroyer" Orgeron and one of the worst teams in LSU football history.
Got blown out by a bunch of Jimbo’s true freshmen
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:22 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's hilarious that the biggest knock on Kelly is that he's 0-3 vs 3 eventual national champions
This just slightly overlooks all the other big bowl games he lost and baffling regular season losses.
I'm sure it was just an oversight and not intentional though.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:48 am to Imber
It's a good class and that level consistently may get you a title like in 2019 if the right pieces come in.
But the separation year after year if UGA and Bama continue to recruit at spots 1, 2 or 3 and you're sitting at 5,6,7 will still put you at an overall disadvantage.
I've lived it. Honestly, you have to the last 15 years.
But the separation year after year if UGA and Bama continue to recruit at spots 1, 2 or 3 and you're sitting at 5,6,7 will still put you at an overall disadvantage.
I've lived it. Honestly, you have to the last 15 years.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:51 am to EarlyCuyler3
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This just slightly overlooks all the other big bowl games he lost and baffling regular season losses.
I'm sure it was just an oversight and not intentional though.
I mean every coach has those.
Why would I hold Brian Kelly to a standard that no one can reach?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:52 am to EarlyCuyler3
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This just slightly overlooks all the other big bowl games he lost and baffling regular season losses.
Well he was at Notre Dame. They had lost something like 9 straight bowls before he was hired. Or are you not old enough to remember?
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