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re: Brian Kelly can't recruit

Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:22 pm to
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Kelly picks up a fake accent to fit in. Grinds on kids in creepy recruiting videos. He is a try-hard. But he is so out of touch, it is a massive fail in my eyes.


Do you honestly believe these 2 cherry picked moments represent the totality of everything he’s done in 14 months as the LSU coach? Serious question.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:24 pm to
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dismiss it but I doubt we see anyone who can actually point out any major differences.


But accent and recruiting video

It would be like trying to define Saban by the shot he took at Jimbo last year
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:24 pm to
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Saban is considered to care more about his process than life and liberty itself. That is in reference to media and fan obligations.

Kelly picks up a fake accent to fit in.
Grinds on kids in creepy recruiting videos.
He is a try-hard. But he is so out of touch, it is a massive fail in my eyes.


Saban will say and do anything to further his program. And that makes him a hypocrite. But he isn't fake. You know right away where he stands in that moment and right away where you stand in his priorities of the day


So these are the only character traits either can have? You didn't put much thought in it with miserable to work for try hard and accents.

Take a lap.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:25 pm to
I’m convinced these goofball are 12 years old

It’s the only explanation for the mind numbing stupidity
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:27 pm to
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Do you honestly believe these 2 cherry picked moments represent the totality of everything he’s done in 14 months as the LSU coach? Serious question.


This is about personality. It isn't cherry picked. It is who Bryan Kelly is. He is more "used car salesman" than inspirational leader.

Me critiquing his personality has nothing to do with his ability to hire a staff, coach a practice, or call a game.

The entire point was about his personality. It is as authentic as Dabo when he speaks about Clemson's Name, Image, and Likeness of God.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:29 pm to
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Well for one... Saban is considered to be miserable to work for.
Saban is considered to care more about his process than life and liberty itself. That is in reference to media and fan obligations.


According to this board.

I haven't heard many coaches complain about working for him.

Kelly is also very process oriented.

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Kelly picks up a fake accent to fit in.
Grinds on kids in creepy recruiting videos.
He is a try-hard.



Again, according to this board.

You "assume" Kelly was faking an accent when it's possible that he simply stumbled over his words.

You say Kelly was "grinding" on recruits due to his famous dancing videos. Saban has also danced on camera, it was with recruit families and not the recruits themselves though.

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But he is so out of touch, it is a massive fail in my eyes.


He isn't recruiting you.

And he's doing okay on the recruiting trail so perhaps you're the one who is "out of touch."

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Saban will say and do anything to further his program. And that makes him a hypocrite. But he isn't fake. You know right away where he stands in that moment and right away where you stand in his priorities of the day.


This seems true of Kelly also from what I've seen so far.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:29 pm to
Lol

I won't apologize that you disapprove of my 1000 foot eye in the sky analysis of Saban vs Kelly's personalities.

LSU fans literally asked for it.

A true LSU version analysis would make more of a contribution to the thread. Or better yet, a Bama analysis.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:30 pm to
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It isn't cherry picked.


It absolutely is

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He is more "used car salesman" than inspirational leader.


You’re speaking in extreme generalities because you’ve never seen either up close. That you think Saban doesn’t have used car salesman tendencies is hilarious btw and shows how little you pay attention. All these coaches have an aspect of that.

Do you really want me to go into detail comparing their personalities for you? As you clearly are woefully unequipped to do? I dont normally do people’s jobs for them.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:32 pm to
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Or better yet, a Bama analysis.


I’m still trying to figure out how a Bama fan would have an unbiased take on this. Should we get Tennessee/Florida takes on Georgia and use that as our baseline of objectivity?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:33 pm to
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I’m still trying to figure out how a Bama fan would have an unbiased take on this. Should we get Tennessee/Florida takes on Georgia and use that as our baseline of objectivity?


They aren't as "close" to the situation, baw.



Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:34 pm to
Right
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:38 pm to
Coaches don't complain publicly about working for other coaches.

It is more about what isn't said.
Coaches are extremely grateful for the opportunity to work at Bama and for Saban. They know what it does for their career and future earning ability. And the compliments stop there.

Every coach is process oriented. Attention to detail. Not every coach demands the same from their staff. Not every coach keeps the process ahead of other head coach obligations.

Are you seriously saying that Kelly hasn't faked an accent?
Are you seriously saying that Saban is trying to be "hip and young and fun" in the recruiting process? That is his angle with recruits?

Plenty of used car salesman are good/great recruiters. Harbaugh has sleepovers at his house. Dabo. Franklin. There is a reason that they do it. But it is the opposite of being genuine.

What examples do you have or Kelly being hypocritical?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:43 pm to
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Are you seriously saying that Kelly hasn't faked an accent?


That this is all you have to go back to over and over and over is extremely telling

The rest of your post is borderline nonsensical. Try again and I’ll be happy to respond.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:43 pm to
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I dont normally do people’s jobs for them.

Sidewalk was the one saying that Saban and Kelly arent different.

You seem to be carrying his water for him.

It would make sense if some lsu fan tried to show examples of similarities to support sidewalk.

As I see it, he spits shite out of his mouth without thinking and hasn't been able to support it at all about 2 pages later.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:43 pm to
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Some programs only dream of winning championships with a Midwest mongoloid grass eater and a shrimp boat captain that barely speaks English.
Proof positive that a caveman can recruit enough talent to win NC’s at LSU.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:44 pm to
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Coaches don't complain publicly about working for other coaches.

It is more about what isn't said.
Coaches are extremely grateful for the opportunity to work at Bama and for Saban. They know what it does for their career and future earning ability. And the compliments stop there.


Those two things certainly aren't true.

quote:

Every coach is process oriented. Attention to detail.




Nope

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Are you seriously saying that Kelly hasn't faked an accent?


I don't know what happened, neither do you.

quote:

Are you seriously saying that Saban is trying to be "hip and young and fun" in the recruiting process? 


I don't think that's his whole approach but he does make attempts to be relatable with his players.

His players see it as genuine. For the record, so do Kelly's.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Imber
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:44 pm to
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Proof positive that a caveman can recruit enough talent to win NC’s at LSU.


Now imagine he isn't a caveman.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:45 pm to
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As I see it, he spits shite out of his mouth without thinking and hasn't been able to support it at all about 2 pages later.


quote:

meansonny


Irony?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:47 pm to
You think Kelly isn't a used car salesman recruiter.

/end thread
Lol

The discussion doesn't need to go any further as your reality is distorted ("we don't know if he was faking an accent or not? Maybe it was a stroke? Maybe he ate peanut butter in the stands?")
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:47 pm to
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Sidewalk was the one saying that Saban and Kelly arent different.


Second time you've built a strawman out of my quote.



quote:

As I see it, he spits shite out of his mouth without thinking and hasn't been able to support it at all about 2 pages later.





I've supported it plenty.

All you have is muh accent and vague generalizations.
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