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re: Bottom line - Smart is dominating recruiting right now

Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:22 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:22 am to
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guess that's why Kirby talked about how healthy Georgia was going into the NC game.


Still as irrelevant now as it was the other 10 times you said this
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8990 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 9:51 am to
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So what part of this isn’t true?


Was never charged with leaving the scene and did not leave in the fashion you described (fleeing). You're talking about things you don't know about. Two kids died that night and you aren't describing that correctly either. Your name fits but not for anatomical reasons.
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:59 pm to
bullshite. God the level of dumb here.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:53 pm to
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Bama had numerous starters out with injury


Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:49 pm to
I guess we will see, but I think people are underestimating what a huge thing that first win accomplished. Getting a monkey off your back is massive. Especially doing it in the manner UGA did, after another game-changing play that seemingly changed momentum to Bama’s favor, the fact the team basically said “F this, we’re going to win“ just changes how the two teams approach the next meeting.

Alternatively, Bama lost their sense of invincibility, and just assuming they will find a way to win. They still skated by on talent against Texas and Texas AM, but when thinks didn’t go their way against UT, I think the dam suddenly has a real structural crack that widened against LSU and could end up bringing down the whole structure.

People talk about good portal gets, but I think if you are apparently recruiting as well as Bama has the past 5 years, having to go into the portal to snag your top offensive players is a HUGE red flag something is just not right. That means you aren’t just missing on evaluations, but missing on the whole position group for multiple years.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3203 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:04 am to
Kirby is doing so well that he's got UGA in a position to add a driver's ed major to the curriculum.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:30 am to
Dick riding UGA. Sad
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:50 am to
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Alternatively, Bama lost their sense of invincibility, and just assuming they will find a way to win. They still skated by on talent against Texas and Texas AM, but when thinks didn’t go their way against UT, I think the dam suddenly has a real structural crack that widened against LSU and could end up bringing down the whole structure


Right, 2022 was the first time Bama lost 2 games in Saban's tenure.

The "structural crack" was 2 bad coordinators that have been replaced. and acting like two losses on the last plays of the game against rivals in their stadiums is some kind of huge turning point for us is silly.

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having to go into the portal to snag your top offensive players is a HUGE red flag


This is dumb. With the portal/transfer rules in place now, this is something that pretty much every school is doing. It would have been stupid not to grab Gibbs and Williams. Every top school would have gladly taken them. We didn't "have" to bring them in.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:58 am to
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It would have been stupid not to grab Gibbs and Williams. Every top school would have gladly taken them. We didn't "have" to bring them in.

Then why do Bama fans act like a bitch after Williams got hurt?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22221 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:12 am to
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The "structural crack" was 2 bad coordinators that have been replaced


It’s unclear if the new guys can reach the level of the ones replaced. It is unlikely that you have a top 5 offense and top 10 defense this year.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:55 am to
The right coordinator can make any level of talent look better.

UGA had that on offense with Todd Monken. Our peers throw out "UGA just has more talent" without looking at who our X, Y, and Z receivers are.
Todd Monken got those guys open (dawg fans remember Coley's inability to scheme open receivers for Fromm).

I have a hunch that Bama hasn't done as well evaluating recruits (taking 5 stars who don't pan out and not identifying the 3 and low 4 stars who could really contribute to the team success).
But that can be covered up to a large extend with the right coordinators.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:15 am to
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Wasn’t he charged for leaving the scene of an accident?


Nope.

Carter wasn't involved in the car accident, so he didn't leave the scene of the accident.

He was charged with racing and reckless driving. He was not charged with any involvement in the accident... which makes sense because he was behind the car that crashed so there's really no way to assign any liability to him.

While you can claim it was crappy behavior not to stop when someone crahses, there is no legal requirement for a person who witnesses a crash to stop. Only those who are actually part of the accident.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:29 am to
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While you can claim it was crappy behavior not to stop when someone crahses, there is no legal requirement for a person who witnesses a crash to stop.

I believe the consensus is that he stopped. Left. And was called back.
He was told it was OK to leave, but that was under false pretense. That's on Jalen.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:33 am to
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I guess that's why Kirby talked about how healthy Georgia was going into the NC game.


UGA was as healthy as they had been all season in 2021 in the NCG.

We also had multiple starters out with injury.

Both things can in fact be true.

Tate Ratledge was a starting OG in 2021. Tykee Smith was starting at the star position. Jalen Kimber was a starting CB. All either got injured before the season or early in the season for UGA and were out for the year.

UGA was "next man up" that season and the backups played great. So much so that Tykee Smith couldn't claw his starting job back from Bullard the following season and Kimber transferred to Florida rather than compete against a stacked defensive backfield.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:21 pm to
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two losses on the last plays of the game against rivals in their stadiums is some kind of huge turning point for us is silly.


And could've easily lost to a 5 loss Texas and OM as well as another close call vs to a 7 loss A&M.

Your '17,'18 and '20 teams would've dominated those teams.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:46 pm to
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And could've easily lost to a 5 loss Texas and OM as well as another close call vs to a 7 loss A&M.


And UGA could've easily dropped 2 games(1 to mighty Mizzou) and not won a bowl game or a NC. But guess what?

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:32 pm to
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But guess what?

Bama is going 3 years without a national championship for the first time since before they hired Kirby Smart as DC?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Bama is going 3 years without a national championship for the first time since before they hired Kirby Smart as DC?



Maybe so, maybe not? But even if that does happen, averaging 1 NC every two years over a 12 year span is insane, and those expectations are kind of ridiculous.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 2:35 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:42 pm to
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(1 to mighty Mizzou)


UGA out gained Mizzou by almost 200 yards and turnovers were obviously the biggest factor in the close score.

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not won a bowl game or a NC.


Are you really comparing a close game with the 2nd ranked team to a close game with Texas,OM and A&M? Only one of those (UT 25th) ended up being ranked.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:16 pm to
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And UGA could've easily dropped 2 games(1 to mighty Mizzou) and not won a bowl game or a NC. But guess what?


I guess you need to dig a little deeper into the opponents and box scores
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