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Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:59 pm to djsdawg
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Talent isn't the problem at Alabama, it's the slip in the coaching
Yep
Bama fans know their program better than I do.
Maybe it is the coaching.
My read on it is that the players aren't buying into practice like they used to.
And that goes to player selection.
I've been wrong before. I'm not trying to die on a hill or troll. I'm just sharing what I've read on the internet.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:59 pm to Funky Tide 8
Not just me, any UGA fan I know and I'm friends with a ton of them. And here's the funny part. I sat in a room in Piedmont Alabama at a cousins house where there was probably 30-40 Alabama fans. And the consensus among everyone one of them was they were embarrassed at the Bama fans that were leaning on the whole Metchie / Williams excuse thing. Heck, they were even upset with Saban, in a couple of his interviews where he tried to lean on the injuries. I was proud to be among those representatives of your fanbase who was man/woman enough to admit that they got beat by a better team.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:04 pm to meansonny
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I'm asking to compare the head to head rosters.
That's the premise behind recruiting and talent acquisition.
Kirby has acquired multiple 5-star QBs in his tenure at Georgia and never won anything with them at the helm.
Alabama landed the #1 overall recruit in the Class of 2020 turning him into a Heisman winner and #1 overall draft pick.
Georgia finally won a title(s) with a walk-on leading the team.
Winning titles is more than just talent acquisition. It's finding talent that fits within your scheme.
More than that though is finding coaches to teach your scheme effectively to your players.
That is where Kirby held an advantage over Saban the last 2 years.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:05 pm to meansonny
of 25 draft picks in 2 years supports that Kirby's long hours are paying off)
Bagman working out of Albany paying off big time..Parents. Uncles, and handlers gotta get paid an no NIl deal for them.
Money flying out in trucks..Only hint you will get.
Bagman working out of Albany paying off big time..Parents. Uncles, and handlers gotta get paid an no NIl deal for them.
Money flying out in trucks..Only hint you will get.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:07 pm to nicholastiger
We know. Thanks.
And yes it’s glorious.
And yes it’s glorious.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:13 pm to TideSaint
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Kirby has acquired multiple 5-star QBs in his tenure at Georgia and never won anything with them at the helm.
Congrats
You win QB recruiting.
There are about 25 other starting positions.
Lol
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Georgia finally won a title(s) with a walk-on leading the team
How?
Identifying a walk on who could win 2 titles?
Identifying team talent who could win with a walking QB... twice?
How?
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Winning titles is more than just talent acquisition. It's finding talent that fits within your scheme.
Absolutely.
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More than that though is finding coaches to teach your scheme effectively to your players.
That is where Kirby held an advantage over Saban the last 2 years.
We disagree.
I can agree to disagree with you.
More credit deserves to go to the players' efforts.
And it is the coaches who take credit for compiling that roster.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:22 pm to meansonny
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Maybe it is the coaching. My read on it is that the players aren't buying into practice like they used to.
They can go hand in hand.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:24 pm to TideSaint
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That is where Kirby held an advantage over Saban the last 2 years.
Yet Georgia still managed to get blown out in their own backyard during the SEC championship despite Saban having two of the worst coordinators in his tenure at Bama.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:33 pm to nicholastiger
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Smart is dominating recruiting
He also leading the conference in players arrested every year also. Even if felony’s wasn’t enough, now he has football players date staffers, players racing each other to the strip club, and now players and staffers dying under his watch. Jalen Carter is the type of person that fits in well. Knew his teammate was involved in a wreck, but instead to render aid and help, he thought about himself only and left the scene while his friend was dying. Smart is recruiting scum of the earth right now. And it will eventually come back to haunt him.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:42 pm to nicholastiger
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Smart is young enough to get close to Saban status by the time he's done
But he will always be in Saban’s shadow.
Everyone will always see Kirby as Saban 2.0.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:55 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Everyone will always see Kirby as Saban 2.0.
If he retires as the 2nd greatest corch in college football history I'm OK with it.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:06 pm to madmaxvol
quote:he has twice as many commits. Same exact as last year, when bama got exactly the guys they wanted and I've again ended up #1 in recruiting. This thread is idiotic. Sabans problem has been clinging to a couple bad coordinators for continuity sake, and injuries at the wrong time. Let's not forget, without losing both our NFL recievers to injury from the sec championship to the national championship, Georgia would not have won that first championship in spite of Golding and o'brien
For the 2024 class, he is significantly ahead (Georgia #4, Bama #20)...but that class doesn't sign until next February.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:08 pm to nicholastiger
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He's getting more talent than Saban is and that will continue with Saban's age being a deterrent
UGA in position to dominate next decade and Smart is young enough to get close to Saban status by the time he's done
According to the recruiting sites, Saban is getting more talent.
According to the football field, Kirby is developing better talent.
Biggest difference right now is Kirby is developing a lot of those three stars that pull our ranking down into five star players upon leaving:
Bennett
McConkey
Dumas Johnson
Eric Stokes
Jordan Davis, etc.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:08 pm to narddogg81
Lol
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:10 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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But he will always be in Saban’s shadow. Everyone will always see Kirby as Saban 2.0.
I bet you are crossing your fingers that he doesn’t 3 pete
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:16 pm to narddogg81
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without losing both our NFL recievers to injury from the sec championship to the national championship, Georgia would not have won that first championship in spite of Golding and o'brien
And there it is- if only UGA wasn't 100% healthy....which we weren't!
And if not for several blown calls and an injury to our WR1 Kirby woulda already had that championship in 2017. I was told then injuries and bad calls were part of the game??
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:22 pm to TideSaint
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You forgot Qua Russaw.
there will always be players Bama lands that UGA wants.
2023 class, UGA wanted Caleb Downs and Justice Haynes very badly - Downs' dad didn't like UGA and Haynes just wanted to break from his old man's alma mater and forge his own path. He was long felt to be a silent to UGA and even Saban was surprised at the committment.
Kadyn Proctor didn't seem to be on the radar w/ UGA although I don't know why he wouldn't be - i'm sure UGA offered but maybe Proctor just didn't like UGA - dunno.
As to the package deal that was rumored in best buds Qua Russaw and James Smith - the Dawgs really wanted Russaw but never seemed to be that high on Smith - even though he was highly rated.
Everyone would take Keeley
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:22 pm to TouchdownTony
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The problem at Alabama was the change in philosophy. In 2016 Bama went all spread, RPO bullshitee. Soft football. Kirby showed you can still get in the I formation. The style Saban was comfortable with. Kirby learned everything he knows from Nick. Bama lost it's edge at the LOS by spending so much time on pass blocking. What you see in Athens is what you saw in Ttown 2008-2015.
WTH? Georgia rarely if ever runs I formation anymore.
We don't even have a fullback. Ran it a few times in 2021 with Zamir at FB in goalline situations or short yardage.
This post was edited on 5/15/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:26 pm to Marktastic86
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ckyard during the SEC championship despite Saban having two of the worst coordinators in his tenure at B
I remember when Bama celebrated national titles while uga got the consolation prize.
This role reversal is great.
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