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re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands

Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:56 am to
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:56 am to
They have played football a long time and know the risks of the game. They also knew what they were signing when they agreed to play college football. If it isn't for them, don't play, wait 2 years then apply for the NFL draft and see how it goes. They would be taking away sports for other kids, mostly girl sports without giving a single shite. Sounds like they are now infringing on other people's right now, including what professors make but I guess that's okay because they are black? I don't see what could go wrong if a player ends up responsible for a professor getting a pay cut...maybe shite gets real in the classroom and they get held to the same standard as every other student? Good luck to many of them staying academically eligible. They all need to take a class that teaches nothing but the meaning of the word amatuer and how it relates to amatuer sports. Doubt any of them would pass
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:57 am to
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Even if they got all that shite, it still wouldn't be enough. They'll keep demanding more and more. This is a very slippery slope

That's human nature, especially here in America, HCs didn't stop when they broke the $1 Million dollar per year barrier, they kept going until HCs broke the $9 million dollar per year barrier, so why should the players be any different?

I'm willing to bet you never made a similar comment above except that you swapped out the players for the coaches, every complaint you have about the Players, the coaches & their Agents have done the same exact thing, but Fans like you have been eerily silent
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:58 am to
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HCs didn't stop when they broke the $1 Million dollar per year barrier, they kept going until HCs broke the $9 million dollar per year barrier, so why should the players be any different?


Coaches can go to the NFL and make that kind of money.

Players can't go anywhere else.

Do some research on the basics of supply and demand.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:02 am to
My only question is when are we going to start paying High School football players as well? Especially some of the big High Schools have coaches that make pretty good money and the school makes money on the football team and uses that money to fund all of the other sports.

So what should high school football players be paid and when are you going to stump for this?
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:03 am to
Do some research on how much Saban brings in to the university in donations that are not just for football, them look at his salary, them tell me what % of that he gets paid. Would a salesperson take commissions on that % plan?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:04 am to
All you need to do is look at the enrollment at Alabama before Saban was hired and after Saban was hired.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:05 am to
But that's too logical
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:08 am to
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They would be taking away sports for other kids, mostly girl sports without giving a single shite.

Can you explain why it is their JOB , their BURDEN to create opportunities for other kids to play sports in College?

These FB & MBB Players start playing their Sport at the ages of 6 to 8 years old and they work their asses off for the better part of A DECADE before they reach College and by the time they get to College they are so good and their Sport is so exciting, that TV Execs in the FREE MARKET are willing to pay BILLIONS each year to Televise their Sport, maybe those Athletes that are getting WELFARE and are getting SUBSIDIZED by these Athletes should work as hard as they did and then let THE FREE MARKET see how much money their Sport is worth on the College level

Now who's the SJW?

Now who's the Marxist?

You sure sound anti Capitalism?

You seem to hate WELFARE right up until it is time for majority white non Revenue Athletes in College to benefit from WELFARE

Didn't know you were a SJW looking out for the WELFARE ATHLETES in College and all, this is surprisingly a bad look for you BTW

Later, Mr SJW
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:13 am to
That's laid out by the NCAA dumbass. Being racist and sexist isn't a good look for you as a SJW is it? Should we end women's right to vote too?

Using fancy words, getting clearly triggered, and being an obvious pussy doesn't hide that you sound mildly retarded
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:16 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:15 am to
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These FB & MBB Players start playing their Sport at the ages of 6 to 8 years old and they work their asses off for the better part of A DECADE before they reach College and by the time they get to College they are so good and their Sport is so exciting, that TV Execs in the FREE MARKET are willing to pay BILLIONS each year to Televise their Sport, maybe those Athletes that are getting WELFARE and are getting SUBSIDIZED by these Athletes should work as hard as they did and then let THE FREE MARKET see how much money their Sport is worth on the College level



This is the only thing you've ever said that has some merit and I'm with you, if a sport cant support itself then it probably shouldn't exist.

That said, the conferences have all the leverage here, it all depends on whether they decide to cave or not.

There will always be players.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8598 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:16 am to
Simple question...do you have a daughter?

If someone isn't born male and isn't good at FB or BB we should tell them to frick off they don't matter? Think about how profoundly stupid, in a very real and general sense that makes you sound. If you can be the prejudiced against 18 year old kids playing soccer what else are you capable of? You sound like 100% of the problem. We all know your real thoughts and who you think doesn't matter, and it's not a good look
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:24 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14022 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:18 am to
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You seem to hate WELFARE right up until it is time for majority white non Revenue Athletes in College to benefit from WELFARE



Why do you continually throw this in everyone's face around here? Why are you such a racist?
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:20 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:23 am to
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Why do you continually throw this in everyone's face around here? Why are you such a racist?


Race is a central part of the player's demands:

quote:

Because NCAA sports exploit college athletes physically, economically and academically, and also disproportionately harm Black college athletes, #WeAreUnited.
In rejecting the NCAA’s claim that #BlackLivesMatter while also systematically exploiting Black athletes nationwide, #WeAreUnited.



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Because unjust rules prevent the 98% of college football and basketball players who won’t go pro from capitalizing economically on what would otherwise be the most valuable years of our lives, including many Black players from low-income homes, #WeAreUnited.


Not sure how anyone could consider their college years to be the "most valuable years of their lives."

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Form a permanent civic-engagement task force made up of our leaders, experts of our choice, and university and conference administrators to address outstanding issues such as racial injustice in college sports and in society.


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In partnership with the Pac-12, 2% of conference revenue would be directed by players to support financial aid for low-income Black students, community initiatives, and development programs for college athletes on each campus.


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Form annual Pac-12 Black College Athlete Summit with guaranteed representation of at least three athletes of our choice from every school.

This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:25 am
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6824 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:27 am to
These players should only have one thing to say and that is yes to stay on team or no to leave team. Thats it stay under the rules or leave
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:31 am to
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Simple question...do you have a daughter

She is already out of college with a degree in computer engineering

My nephew runs cross country on a partial scholly and was recruited out of HS

He attends a smaller college where FB doesn't generate $100million plus each yr

But still, I would never want another child or person to be treated unfairly to give an advantage or benefit to my child that they didn't EARN

At the HS Level everything is fair and subsidized by the Govt & Taxpayers, after that your sport should be paid for by your ability in the free market to generate Money, and since that doesn't happen in College, the guys that are carrying the entire Financial burden deserve more than a full scholly, they deserve a larger Stipend on top of their scholly

Simple question , how do you define fairness?

Do you do everything in your Power to be as fair as possible, or do you do whatever you can get away with?

What's wrong with the NCAA and the Conferences trying to find a more perfect system, like our US Constitution asks us to?
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:44 am to
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Why do you continually throw this in everyone's face around here? Why are you such a racist?


A better question to ask is why don't the non Revenue Sports simply generate their own money and stop relying on WELFARE from FB & MBB?

A great way to silence many critics of the current system, is to have every Sport at the P5 Level operate at at LEAST a break-even Level based on their own merit in the FREE MARKET

Once there are no more WELFARE SPORTS on P5 campuses you won't hear a peep out of me

Hard to claim the purity of Amateurism when a small group has the burden to subsidize everyone else

Let everyone pay their own freight and it'll silence me
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52473 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:49 am to
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Hard to claim the purity of Amateurism when a small group has the burden to subsidize everyone else


It isnt like football players work any harder than other athletes.

They just happen to play a more popular sport.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:52 am to
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My only question is when are we going to start paying High School football players as well? Especially some of the big High Schools have coaches that make pretty good money and the school makes money on the football team and uses that money to fund all of the other sports.

So what should high school football players be paid and when are you going to stump for this?

Not true for HS

At the HS level the taxpayers provide for all sports, although some of the extras are funded by booster clubs

There are no T9 issues in HS because the taxpayers fund the Sports, Women's Basketball doesn't rely on FB to pay their HC's salary

Different situation, doesn't apply to the college level

Once again, the MAGA Hat wearing crowd is so worried about the slippery slope that they would rather let a bad system stay in place and be unfair to the FB & MBB players at P5 Colleges rather than pursuing a more fair system
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:55 am to
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Another better written article specified that they wanted 50% of the sports Revenues that were distributed from the Pac12, that isn't the same as %50% of ALL REVENUES" which is the quote being thrown around here

The 50% of a Sports Revenues distributed from the Pac12 only includes TV-Radio Money and not 50% of ALL REVENUES

I guess I'll have to find the article and make you look stupid



So you're going to find another article, which was not quoted, to make the poster look stupid?
Someone is going to look stupid alright.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68296 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:57 am to
Guess it doesnt feel so good when you get yourself #canceled
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