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re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands

Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:52 am to
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:52 am to
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They never asked for that, learn how to read & comprehend

Goddamn you are THE most insufferably, ignorant pieces of shite that have ever posted on this board.

AND THAT SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!

Here is an excerpt from the article. Notice the part in bold you fricking moronic loser.

Among the specifics are:

1. Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19 and serious injury, abuse and death.

2. 50% of a sport's revenue distributed evenly to athletes.

3. Medical insurance for six years after college.

4. Reduced pay of Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott, coaches, administrators.

5. 2% of revenue to support financial aid for low-income Black students and community initiatives.

6. Use university endowment funds to protect all college sports. As an example, the players cite Stanford's recent announcement that it will discontinue 11 varsity sports while the school has an $27 billion endowment.

I guess it's obvious who can't read and comprehend.

I done with you you dumba$$, ignorant piece of shite.

This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:23 am
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:53 am to
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Lol... when it was pre-segregation and money was still driving the sport, was it white people being exploited?

Pre segregation the Head Coaches had to sell cars and sell insurance in the Off-season to supplement their income, there were no big TV Deals back then and even if you adjust for inflation, the Top70 P5 Colleges didn't come anywhere close to grossing $5 billion dollars each year

IMO since the Money was not nearly as massive, the exploitation of white Athletes just didn't exist at the same level as it does today

A bachelor's degree is a good deal when the HC has to hustle a 2nd Job in the off-season to make ends meet

A bachelor's degree isn't as good a deal when the HC makes $9 million per year and makes so much that he can buy a Mercedes Benz Dealership

In summary, way less money way less exploitation
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 12:55 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52309 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:06 am to
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Pre segregation the Head Coaches had to sell cars and sell insurance in the Off-season to supplement their income, there were no big TV Deals back then and even if you adjust for inflation, the Top70 P5 Colleges didn't come anywhere close to grossing $5 billion dollars each year

IMO since the Money was not nearly as massive, the exploitation of white Athletes just didn't exist at the same level as it does today


And none of this had anything to do with race and everything to do with the rising popularity of college football and televised sports.

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A bachelor's degree is a good deal when the HC has to hustle a 2nd Job in the off-season to make ends meet

A bachelor's degree isn't as good a deal when the HC makes $9 million per year and makes so much that he can buy a Mercedes Benz Dealership


Why do you keep comparing entry level positions (student athletes) in the college football industry to CEO's (head coaches)?

Your lack of understanding of the real world is astounding, its not surprising at all that you are a leftist.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 1:06 am
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:22 am to
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Your lack of understanding of the real world is astounding, its not surprising at all that you are a leftist

She truly is one of the most ignorant posters on this site.

And that is one hell of an accomplishment.
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1807 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:45 am to
Even if they got all that shite, it still wouldn't be enough. They'll keep demanding more and more. This is a very slippery slope.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8044 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:39 am to
I may become a Cougars fan after reading that.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:55 am to
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I can't believe you used the internship example -- P5 CFB isn't an internship

You want to argue so badly that you don't take the time to try to comprehend things. The player said...
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There is NO other industry where people don't get paid for their work.

My reply to that specifically was yes there is because internships are a part of businesses all over the world. Then, on top of that, the players are compensated for their work. Even though we both agree that it isn’t enough, they are still compensated pretty well.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:25 am to
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When do you propose conferences/schools stop giving into player's demands?


Yesterday.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:41 am to
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And I do not care one single bit.


Why are you on a CFB site then?
What brought you here?

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said EVERY athletic scholarship, too. No more. Get into a school on your academic merits, then try out for a team. Period.


NOBODY will watch or care.

Why would you "not care" about destroying a great American institution?

quote:

LegendInMyMind


Couldn't be a more appropriate
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:44 am to
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Goddamn you are THE most insufferably, ignorant pieces of shite that have ever posted on this board.

AND THAT SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!

Here is an excerpt from the article. Notice the part in bold you fricking moronic loser.

Among the specifics are:

1. Player-approved health and safety standards enforced by a third party selected by players to address COVID-19 and serious injury, abuse and death.
the complete piece of s*** needs to be banned from this board what GT has to do with the SEC is beyond me he's over here for no other reason than to stir up s***.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18162 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:45 am to
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IMO since the Money was not nearly as massive, the exploitation of white Athletes just didn't exist at the same level as it does today


I'd disagree. For every adjusted dollar figure less due to those masssive tv deals and marketing campaigns, there was equally or more reduction in oversight and control in the segregation era. The latter truly leads to "exploitation."

College athletes recruited in hordes by coaches never intending to play them; just keep them from playing for a rival. Increased physical, mental, and emotional abuse with scholarships and continued team membership held over their heads. No cameras or social media around to capture the more taboo "teaching moments." A more prevalent cultural norm of respecting your elders, not whining about harsh conditions, and doing what your told existed, all of which sets conditions for athletes to truly be "exploited" by the university athletics system. And, they certainly were for the most part. There would have been no "Junction Boys" today. Even non-student athletes were more inclined to get gigged through student fees earmarked specifically for the athletic dept, which still occurs today. But, is much less frequent or costly across the whole.

College sports is and should always be about amateur athletics. The cost of college has certainly risen alongside the increase in athletic revenue from the NCAA. The cost of a scholarship and everything that goes into support of a player is astronomical, even at smaller universities. Simply because the system is more profitable now than in the past doesn't mean the "labor force" is more entitled to larger wages, which I’d argue they are already receiving in spades comparatively to decades past.

This has nothing to do with supporting a movement. It is taking advantage of a cause to try and leverage a situation for personal gain under false pretenses. They are selling a cause and adding in the riders they have been demanding all along. It has nothing to do with anything but greed. It is union mentality that will ruin college sports, as it generally ruins everything else.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 6:47 am
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
16505 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:55 am to
Outside of some of the olympic sports has the pac 12 been relevant in the major sports among the men in a while? The biggest city of LA has been relevant in CFB in a while.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5789 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:06 am to
My new 2nd favorite school. Its hard to believe its in the same state as Seattle.

Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16992 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:14 am to
There are kids that would kill for the opportunity these kids have. Give the scholarship to someone who really wants to play ball and get a free education.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:35 am to
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This could be a different deal though.

I bet the NCAA and the Conference give the players that were "cut" immediate eligibility

The players at this point had not missed any team related required activities

The Coach wanted to show out for his fan & alums and jumped the gun with this knee jerk reaction, the Coach never gave the Players a chance to skip anything, he just cut them based on their verbal comments

This HC will never Recruit worth a darn, he basically ended his own Career on the College Level, he forgot rule #1 in CFB:

Recruiting is 80% of what makes you successful at the P5 level, it is the single most important thing that a college HC can do to win Games
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52309 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:37 am to
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I bet the NCAA and the Conference give the players that were "cut" immediate eligibility

The players at this point had not missed any team related required activities

The Coach wanted to show out for his fan & alums and jumped the gun with this knee jerk reaction, the Coach never gave the Players a chance to skip anything, he just cut them based on their verbal comments

This HC will never Recruit worth a darn, he basically ended his own Career on the College Level, he forgot rule #1 in CFB:

Recruiting is 80% of what makes you successful at the P5 level, it is the single most important thing that a college HC can do to win Games


You're assuming that another coach will want players who threaten to sit out when things don't go their way.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:43 am to
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2. 50% of a sport's revenue distributed evenly to athletes.

Another better written article specified that they wanted 50% of the sports Revenues that were distributed from the Pac12, that isn't the same as %50% of ALL REVENUES" which is the quote being thrown around here

The 50% of a Sports Revenues distributed from the Pac12 only includes TV-Radio Money and not 50% of ALL REVENUES

I guess I'll have to find the article and make you look stupid
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:50 am to
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Why do you keep comparing entry level positions (student athletes) in the college football industry to CEO's (head coaches)?

Your lack of understanding of the real world is astounding, its not surprising at all that you are a leftist.

What you call "entry level positions" another person calls them the centerpieces and the frontline labor in an Entertainment Enterprise that grosses $5 Billion Dollars among the 70 P5 Colleges

It is all about perspective, most intelligent people would say that my perspective is likely to be more fair

Those Coaches don't gross that $5 billion by themselves, the money has become so great that a free bachelor's degree just isn't enough, sorry pal time to evolve
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52309 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:54 am to
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What you call "entry level positions" another person calls them the centerpieces and the frontline labor in an Entertainment Enterprise that grosses $5 Billion Dollars among the 70 P5 Colleges


There will always be players willing to play.

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It is all about perspective, most intelligent people would say that my perspective is likely to be more fair




Since when is life fair?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:54 am to
the entire 50% of revenue (no matter what revenue you want to use) will not happen without some serious reconfiguring of the college sports structure. i.e. no more women's athletic scholarships or men's track and field and so on and so on.
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