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Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:56 am to scrooster
Posted on 8/8/13 at 9:56 am to scrooster
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SCAR vs B1G ... 6-5
You sure? Cfbdatawarehouse has us at 5-9
2-0 vs OSU
2-1 vs Michigan
0-1 vs Iowa
0-1 vs Indiana
1-3 vs Nebraska
0-2 vs PSU
0-1 vs NW
Now if you take out the games in which we weren't in the SEC yet we'd be 4-1 I think.
eta: And 5 of those 9 losses were against teams that weren't in the B1G when we lost them either.
This post was edited on 8/8/13 at 9:58 am
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:17 am to theGarnetWay
And doesn't OSU now have more wins over SEC teams in bowl games because A&M is now in the SEC?
WOOHOOOOO
WOOHOOOOO
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:33 am to KillerNut9
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The only thing with an Ohio State home and home is that I'd prefer for the SEC team to visit Columbus in November. Want to see how they handle the cold.
I always love this argument. Effectively, the argument is "We are an inferior team all things being equal, so we need you to come into our specific climate and see if that gives us enough of an edge to overcome our inferiority."
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:41 am to Crimson Legend
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Effectively, the argument is "We are an inferior team all things being equal, so we need you to come into our specific climate and see if that gives us enough of an edge to overcome our inferiority."
The same argument SEC fans bring back in retaliation about B1G teams playing in Georgia in August or September?
It isn't the same argument cause it's hot all over the country in the summer (not as humid some places I understand). The B1G plays non-conference games in the beginning of the season, so there will be no November games between LSU and OSU or PSU and Georgia.
However, if the bidding system is true for the national title games beginning in like 2016, OSU or PSU or the Big House could host the national title game...i think
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:52 am to Buckeye06
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take a look at the 2009 Champs Sports Bowl if you have an hour. Wisky vs. Miami.
if i remember correctly, Wisconsin dominated the line of scrimmage. That 2009-2010 stretch for Miami was odd, everyone expected a lot out of them but they underwhelmed... OSU beat them in 2010 (in September) and Notre Dame beat them in a 2010 bowl game in El Paso... so i don't know if the cold weather is why Miami lost to Wisky... but they definitely got beat down
Posted on 8/8/13 at 10:57 am to bowelprojections
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if i remember correctly, Wisconsin dominated the line of scrimmage
Line of scrimmage and time of possession. Miami got the huge kick return to start that game and Wisconsin beat the hell out of them the rest of the way. It didn't help Miami that Jacory Harris was awful.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:12 am to Crimson Legend
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I always love this argument. Effectively, the argument is "We are an inferior team all things being equal, so we need you to come into our specific climate and see if that gives us enough of an edge to overcome our inferiority."
Yes, because I'm admitting that future Ohio State teams are already inferior to future SEC teams.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:23 am to theGarnetWay
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You sure? Cfbdatawarehouse has us at 5-9
2-0 vs OSU
2-1 vs Michigan
0-1 vs Iowa
0-1 vs Indiana
1-3 vs Nebraska
0-2 vs PSU
0-1 vs NW
Now if you take out the games in which we weren't in the SEC yet we'd be 4-1 I think.
eta: And 5 of those 9 losses were against teams that weren't in the B1G when we lost them either.
Nebraska was not in the B1G for three of those four games.
PSU was not in the B1G for either of those games.
That list also does not show the 1928 win over Chicago, who was in the Big Ten at the time we played them.
Click this LINK, then note the overall records before scrolling down to see the individual game records against the Big Ten.
Individual Game Results of South Carolina (vs BigTen)
Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site
1/1/2013 vs. Michigan (8-5) W 33 28 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
1/2/2012 vs. Nebraska (9-4) W 30 13 @ Orlando, FL Capital One Bowl
1/1/2009 vs. Iowa (9-4) L 10 31 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
1/1/2002 vs. Ohio State (7-5) W 31 28 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
1/1/2001 vs. Ohio State (8-4) W 24 7 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl
12/28/1988 vs. Indiana (8-3-1) L 10 34 @ Memphis, TN Liberty Bowl
9/21/1985 vs. Michigan (10-1-1) L 3 34
9/27/1980 @ Michigan (10-2) W 17 14
9/22/1962 @ Northwestern (7-2) L 20 37
9/29/1928 @ Chicago (2-7) W 6 0
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Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:37 am to Buckeye06
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I agree that it isn't often snowing during games in college, but I remember sitting at an OSU/Iowa game in 2004 or 2005 and man was it miserable. 32-38 with freezing rain for 4 straight hours...god
This is true. This actually happened at the 2000 Alabama/Auburn game in Tuscaloosa. In the hour leading up to kickoff, it started sleeting really hard with the temp in the mid to upper 30s. The heavy sleet switched to a cold miserable rain with temps in the upper 30s. I would have much rather the temp dropped to the upper 20s and the sleet would have stayed sleet instead of it changing to rain. That whole game was miserable.
I know it gets plenty hot and ocassionally as humid in the Midwest as the Deep South in the summer, but the point made about the heat here in September is a valid one. My parents went to a Bama game in Tuscaloosa in the late 70s when Washington visited. It was early September and the poor Washington cheerleaders were dropping like flies from the heat. They were totally unprepared for the heat and humidity like someone from the South or even the Midwest would be.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:40 am to VADawg
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haven't been through too many 95+ degree days here but there were plenty of 35-40 degree days in Georgia
It's not the cold. Couple it with freezing rain and wind and it's a completely different story. That shite isn't fun for anyone to play in and it definitely affects the game.
Being in 30 degree weather and getting your arse pounded into a frozen field are two different things. All games aren't like that in November but there's a good chance that they will be.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:42 am to dallasga6
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There's just not that much different in Nov. between SEC states & Ohio, certainly not enough to give Ohio st any type of real advantage.... I'll give you late Dec.,Jan etc...FWIW, we have sleet, freezing rain & below freezing temps down here too in Nov...
Not when you look at averages but on any given day the likely hood of it being much more uncomfortable outside in Columbus, Ohio is different from Athens, Georgia.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:45 am to Crimson Legend
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I always love this argument. Effectively, the argument is "We are an inferior team all things being equal, so we need you to come into our specific climate and see if that gives us enough of an edge to overcome our inferiority."
bullshite. The argument is let's see how your team does in adverse conditions. It's ok for you to say let them come down and play in 95/95 but when the reverse is used you call BS. Well, I call BS on your BS.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:46 am to VABuckeye
I am just going to say that for the most part, this has been a pretty reasonable thread 
And yes I still hate the SEC and eSECpn
And yes I still hate the SEC and eSECpn
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:48 am to Buckeye06
Mostly yes. The discussions between fan bases have improved a ton since I joined here. There's a lot of good people on this board.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:48 am to Govt Tide
Coldest game I've ever attended personally, bar none, was versus Florida, in Columbia, in 1995.
The crushed us 63-7. Spurrier had Wuerful throwing TDs in the 4th qtr. But a northeasterner moved in during the game, temp fell to 28 with a wind chill around 14 by the end of the game if I remember correctly. It was brutal cold. There may have been ten people left in the stands - I was one of them.
The crushed us 63-7. Spurrier had Wuerful throwing TDs in the 4th qtr. But a northeasterner moved in during the game, temp fell to 28 with a wind chill around 14 by the end of the game if I remember correctly. It was brutal cold. There may have been ten people left in the stands - I was one of them.
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:51 am to scrooster
What is considered the Snow Bowl of college football?
The Independence Bowl between A&M and Mississippi State....in Shreveport, LA, that went to like 27 overtimes.
I always forget, which school decided to wear all white that night?
The Independence Bowl between A&M and Mississippi State....in Shreveport, LA, that went to like 27 overtimes.
I always forget, which school decided to wear all white that night?
This post was edited on 8/8/13 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:54 am to sbrian3915
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What is considered the Snow Bowl of college football?
LINK
Obviously this is the one I think of. 45 punts
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:55 am to VABuckeye
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There's a lot of good people on this board.
Usually yes. If you venture over to the TR...prepare your anus
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:58 am to scrooster
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That list also does not show the 1928 win over Chicago, who was in the Big Ten at the time we played them.
9/29/1928 @Chicago (2-7)W
Posted on 8/8/13 at 11:59 am to VABuckeye
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Not when you look at averages but on any given day the likely hood of it being much more uncomfortable outside in Columbus, Ohio is different from Athens, Georgia.
Columbus is just an awful place to be, indoors or out, winter, spring, summer or fall. And you're right - Athens is a far superior town to Columbus no matter what the season.
I still get a kick out of some (not all but many) OSU fans always claiming a weather advantage or disadvantage. Do you realize how whiny and pathetic it makes your fanbase look when you try to argue that point on any level?
So, allow me to ask, if you will ... what is Urbie telling the young African-American recruits he is after down here ... what is he telling them about the weather up there? Let me guess. It goes something like this.
Southern Prospect: "I dunno coach. I've heard it's cold up there and I'm not crazy about playing in snow and sleet."
Urbie: "Who told you that Son? I'll bet one of those lying-arse SEC coaches told you that, didn't they? You know SEC coaches are known for lying to prospects, don't you? Well, let me set you straight. Lookit (emphasis mine), here is the average daily temperature comparison between Athens and Columbus ... see this, there is not that much of a difference, agreed?"
Prospect: "Wow coach! That's great! I thought Columbus was colder than that! Heck yes. You throw-in the tat package, the car, the get out of jail free card and I'm yours ... where do I sign!"
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