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re: Big 12 commish is upset over undeserving teams getting in CFP over more deserving Big 12

Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 am to
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6463 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 am to
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As if because the Big12 is for some reason allowed to pretend like it's a "power" conference


The entire Big 12 could beat the bottom 75% of the Big 10.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
5338 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:27 am to
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It's weird to me how many people think labels mean something.

As if because the Big12 is for some reason allowed to pretend like it's a "power" conference that all things are otherwise equal.

It's bullshite that either of those teams will be given a spot.

Do people really hate meritocracy this much?
I understand him holding up for his conference, but even he must know deep inside that it is a crap league.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:28 am to
To be fair to the BXII commish his main argument seems to solely be that their champion deserves to be seeded ahead of Boise State, which is pretty reasonable. Arizona State and Iowa State have significantly more difficult schedules than Boise does. Now, should either of them get a bye? Hell no, but the bye already exists so one of them is getting it. He's saying it should be them.

Unless I missed it he isn't arguing for anything beyond that.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
2236 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:31 am to
Big 10 should be maxed out to only 2 slots in the CFP regardless of their inflated ratings in the pollls.. It is a top heavy conference with mostly poor teams.

Big 12 should focus their complaints against the Big 10 not the SEC. SEC should have 5 or 6 in the CFP.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
5338 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:33 am to
But he seemed upset that 3 loss Alabama, USCe, and Ole Miss were ahead of his 2 loss teams. He says it is because of their names and have not earned their ranking.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:35 am to
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But he seemed upset that 3 loss Alabama, USCe, and Ole Miss were ahead of his 2 loss teams. He says it is because of their names and have not earned their ranking.



Ahhh, I missed that part. Yea, probably best to keep his mouth shut.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
5338 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:35 am to
As long as Ohio State makes it then I do not care about the rest of the B1G.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6001 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:45 am to
Sandusky abused boys in the locker rooms and showers for decades while the cult and it's Jim jones-like leader, Paterno covered it up.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
5338 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:49 am to
If I'm not mistaken some of those boys were mentally challenged.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2869 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Penn State’s schedule was beyond a joke. Oregon can name the score tomorrow.
I dunno, could be wrong, but while I think Oregon will win, I think it'll be closer than you might think...

Oregon struggled with FCS Idaho at home...Boise State had 'em on the ropes at Eugene and Oregon won it late by a FG...they struggled with Wisconsin at Camp Randall just a couple of weeks ago or so, winning by just three...

There just aren't any dominant/elite teams this year...right now I think that about half of the field of 12, as it stands now, are capable of winning it all...and I think there are a couple outside it capable as well...
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
849 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:18 pm to
They have about 6 good programs and then absolute trash.



Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
2208 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:19 pm to
There are no deserving Big 12 teams
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:22 pm to
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They really need to learn from the basketball committee which created the NET where Quality Wins became more a important tool than overall records.


I think it'd be interesting to break the current season for football in a similar manner. Show records including wins and losses based on quadrant.

Not sure WHICH ranking system that would be (FEI maybe, or SP+). Just would be interesting to see.

I've tended to use Sagarin in the past just because he ranked every team and it was easily searchable (never behind a paywall).
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4843 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:10 pm to
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They really need to learn from the basketball committee which created the NET where Quality Wins became more a important tool than overall records.


Absolutely. There's also no reason for them to release a top 25 before the season is over either. I've never understood the purpose of this. It just brings unnecessary criticism on themselves.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8713 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:13 pm to
My guess is that a college football NET would be a combination SP+ FEI performance analytics toned down with sone other computer polls. It would probably end up being close to the composite BCS computers.

What would be great is for it to reflect the difference between playing the same opponemt home vs away.

It's common sense that it's almost always harder to beat #30 on the road than it is team #20 at home yet college football talking points almost never make that distinction.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19867 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Penn State’s schedule was beyond a joke. Oregon can name the score tomorrow.I dunno, could be wrong, but while I think Oregon will win, I think it'll be closer than you might think...


Really hoping for OU to absolutely blow out out PSU by enough that tOSU and the Vols can move up a spot and host.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
4894 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:19 pm to
Brett Yormark can hop, skip, jump and go frick himself in the corner.

Yes, we have legit beef with him and his deputy commish as well.
Posted by Foots51
Salem. Al
Member since Sep 2022
245 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:11 pm to
The same 10-2 coaches who complain about being ranked behind 9-3 SEC teams are perfectly OK being ranked ahead of 11-1 Army.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:11 pm to
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He can have my cum rag to dry his tears with.


Gross
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted by IvIerlot
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2022
695 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:55 pm to
Look at them, trying to get the SEC and the B1G to agree on something. Not gonna fall for it.
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