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re: Ben Simmons isn't elite

Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:30 am to
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but he's not dominant. If he were, LSU would be a top 15 team. That's what dominant players do.


No our coach Johnny Jones is why we are not a top 15 team it has nothing to do with BEN. We have been out coached in almost every game this season, the only way LSU is winning is by out talenting other teams.
Posted by BlueTide
kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
109 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:32 am to
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Ben Simmons isn't elite


This wins worst internet post for an entire week.

3morereps has just placed himself as the worst basketball player analysts on the rant
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:39 am to
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Kerry Kittles was the best player in the Big East in 1995


-Many are saying Ben is the Best Player in the SEC and the COUNTRY in 2016.
-Supporting cast? dude Quarterman will make a D league team or play in Europe it's not like Ben has the "Dream Team" hear at LSU.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61834 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:06 am to
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My only slight is he is immature with his tantrums and mouth. He jaws a little much for me. If you are good, and know you are good, let your game do all the talking.


I don't think I've seen him "jawing" much at all.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30109 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:11 am to
Why? Because he isn't flashy? He makes it look easy and is more worried about fundamentals than highlight reels. Most definitely the type of player every coach wants. He will be a player that will be in the NBA for a long, long time.

Exactly. People think because he doesn't throw down Blake Griffin, Sportscenter highlight dunks every possession he's not elite. Those guys can draft whoever they think is "elite". I'll take this kid.

P.S. He does need to work on his shot. But do people think MJ came into the league with a refined perimeter game?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119161 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:13 am to
He's an elite player on an average team with an average coach. He's fine.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6930 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:21 pm to
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This is where he sits in the SEC

Points/Game - 3rd (19.8)
Assists/Game - 5th (4.9)
Rebounds/Game - 1st (12.7; next closest is at 9.8)
FG % - 3rd (55.6%)



And I'll throw in that he's also in the Top 20 of blocked shots

Oh-- and in the decades and decades of SEC basketball--which has had its fair share of sort of OK basketball players like Pistol Pete, Shaq, Anthony Davis, Barkley, 'Nique, etc--

No player, of any classification, has finished Top 5 in all of those categories in the same year. Ever.

People who think Simmons isn't elite should play in traffic- they'll get as much out of it, as they do from watching a game of basketball.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted by SoberAg
College Station
Member since Oct 2014
1310 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:00 pm to
If you know basketball and are an impartial observer: Simmons = Elite
If you know basketball and are an LSU fan: Simmons = Elite
If you know basketball and hate LSU: Simmons = Not Elite
If you don't know basketball: Simmons = Not Elite

Simmons = Elite
If your opinion differs, stick to talking football or enjoy labeling yourself a troll.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 1:01 pm
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8619 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Dude reminds me of a poor man's Kerry Kittles


Kerry Kittles was 6'5 and a slasher...

This is stupid.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8619 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:56 pm to
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Don't you ever shame Kittles like that again! Kerry Kittles was the best player in the Big East in 1995 and would have been the best in 1996 as well if he had someone else to help him. For Christ's sake he had to Zeffy Penn and Alvin Williams. Not a stellar supporting cast.



Ray Allen and Allen Iverson said "wut?"
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:11 pm to
I can't decide if chanting "76'ers!" was a good thing to do or not for the student section.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Ray Allen and Allen Iverson said "wut?"
It was a three man race with John Wallace a little behind the three, but Kittles was a beast at times. The problem was that he was all they had really in 96. Lawson and Ebrez were okay role players and Alvin Williams was meh. Kittles was the man.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8619 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

It was a three man race with John Wallace a little behind the three, but Kittles was a beast at times. The problem was that he was all they had really in 96. Lawson and Ebrez were okay role players and Alvin Williams was meh. Kittles was the man.



Alvin Williams was pretty good...not great but not bad.

The other 3 just had better coaches.

And John Wallace was a one man gang most of the season, sometimes Todd Bergan and Otis Hill would show up.

And I'm a 'Cuse fan
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68322 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:31 pm to
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Got down voted for saying he's not dominant. He's not. He's the best all around player in the league but he's not dominant. If he were, LSU would be a top 15 team. That's what dominant players do.



Yeah it's his fault we lost games like:

Marquette: Simmons goes for 21 points, 20 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals
NC State: "Only" 4 points, but 14 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 steals and 3 blocks
Charleston: 15 points, 18 rebounds, 4 assists
Houston: 13 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks
Wake: 21 points, 12 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks
Florida: 28 points, 17 boards, 4 assists
A&M: 10 points, 11 boards, 5 assists, 3 steals

This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:31 pm to
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He's an elite player on an average team with an average coach. He's fine.


below average coach
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7350 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:34 pm to
Final statement been is awesome and has a chance to be great in the NBA if he stays healthy gets tougher, and develops an outside shot.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36418 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:38 pm to
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Marquette: Simmons goes for 21 points, 20 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals


Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68322 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:41 pm to
Exactly, but hey, he's not dominant because we didnt win. That's all. Drop 21, 20, 7 & 2 = not dominant
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19300 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:46 pm to
Magic Johnson, who has no dog in this hunt but knows a bit about NBA talent levels, calls him the best freshman he's even seen factoring in his whole game. He said fans see the 3 point shots, flashy dunks. NBA scouts see his vision, game IQ, passing ability, court awareness. And he's only 18 yrs old.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Got down voted for saying he's not dominant. He's not. He's the best all around player in the league but he's not dominant. If he were, LSU would be a top 15 team.

you mean like LSU was with Shaq and Chris Jackson or like LSU was with Maravich. Nevermind, LSU wasn't top 15 with any of those players
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