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re: Baseball permanents
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:42 am to LazarusJohnson
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:42 am to LazarusJohnson
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I'm a huge LSU baseball guy and I can tell you nobody in Louisiana cares or wants to care about Texas A&M.
LSU wants to have strong ties to the state of Texas. It doesn't have anything to do with A&M in particular, they are just what is available. The Longhorns out of state rival will always be Oklahoma.
There is massive population growth in Texas. The state does not have enough college capacity for all those kids so many are looking out of state.
LSU is in competition with other out of state schools to get their share of those kids. They want as many games in Texas as possible to increase brand visibility. Permanent games with A&M helps with that.
While the Ole Miss rivalry is fun for fans, it doesnt do anything to help grow LSU.
Follow the money and you find your answer.
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:43 am to Linoge
OU has the easiest by far love it .
Posted on 11/9/23 at 11:50 am to MedDawg
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So State has the last two national champions (LSU, OM) as permanent opponents. Makes sense, but that makes it tough.
Would you rather play Mizzou as a permanent opponent? SEC Baseball is as brutal as football (if not more). At least you're getting good matchups with a generally higher quality fan, as baseball fans typically seem to be more hospitable and knowledgeable than football fans.
ETA: Except Tennessee... Their fans suck across all levels.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 11:51 am
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:04 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Miss State and Ole Miss probably have the most difficult.
A&M has the most difficult. LSU & Texas are arguably the 2 greatest programs in the history of college baseball.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:06 pm to ukraine_rebel
Very geographic. Everyone has the closest school on their permanent.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:12 pm to Linoge
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While the Ole Miss rivalry is fun for fans, it doesnt do anything to help grow LSU.
LSU baseball doesn't need Texas' help to grow. LSU is probably the biggest brand in college baseball. They've recruited every corner of the country for decades. They don't need a permanent series with Texas A&M (or Texas) to "grow." They have no problem whatsoever with brand visibility. They take care of that with their trophy case.
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Follow the money and you find your answer.
If money was the answer, LSU and Texas would have a permanent series because they'll be the two biggest "brands" in the conference for college baseball
As I stated in my first post of this thread, this isn't football. Rivalries aren't the same. Exposure isn't the same. Recruiting isn't the same. However, the conference voted on permanent opponents as if they are the same. They're just not.
LSU' biggest rivals in baseball have historically been MS State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Florida. Of those, only Ole Miss is a true historical rival of LSU in football, with Florida coming next in that hierarchy.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:20 pm to ukraine_rebel
Interesting.
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The permanent SEC baseball opponents were determined based on a number of factors including geography, traditional opponents and strength of schedule.
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:22 pm to Linoge
quote:In football, most definitely. In baseball and basketball, eh...
The Longhorns out of state rival will always be Oklahoma.
Oklahoma fans honestly follow softball a lot closer than they do baseball. Texas honestly has more contentious baseball history with Nebraska, Arkansas and Stanford as out-of-state opponents than they do with the Sooners.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:24 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Why do we keep being fricking stuck with them?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:24 pm to Shea Vinnerbush
Hogs & Horns will be a big draw in baseball
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:25 pm to NFLSU
First day back on the board after Alabama kicked your asses I see.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:25 pm to ukraine_rebel
Yay, two historically crap programs for us. What fun!
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:33 pm to Hawgeye
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Woof at Missouri. Horrible.
Would have much rather have had LSU or Miss State...literally anyone but Missouri. What a horrible baseball trip that is.
When y'all complain about having us a permanent rival in football or basketball, I find it ridiculous.
Not going to argue with you too much on the baseball front. Arkansas puts a lot more resources and support into its baseball program than Mizzou ever will.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:37 pm to BreakawayZou83
Why do you find it ridiculous? Arkansas football nor basketball fans see Mizzou as anything more than another game.
Arkansas football fans hate - Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Auburn.
Arkansas basketball fans hate - Kentucky and Texas.
Arkansas football fans hate - Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Auburn.
Arkansas basketball fans hate - Kentucky and Texas.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:46 pm to Porker Face
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The fact that someone gets a SEC win from an OU/Missouri baseball series really shows how this addition has watered down the brand
NCAA Baseball National Championships
OU-2
MU-1
UA-0
NCAAA Baseball National Championship Runner-up
MU-3
OU-1
UA-1
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:47 pm to TennesseeTom
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Even AI chat tells me it's called the "Gulf War".
That's bizarre. I honestly have never heard that term. Have I somehow missed that? Are any Tiger or Aggie fans familiar with that term?
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:48 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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Very geographic. Everyone has the closest school on their permanent.
Alabama doesn't. Not that they should, but State and Alabama are the 2 closest schools in the league.
Perms seem pretty good.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:49 pm to ukraine_rebel
Wish we got LSU or Florida. If you are able to handle them you are probably a contending team
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:49 pm to ukraine_rebel
Love it, you keep the most iconic baseball rivalries in the West.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:50 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:It's NCAA Regionals in conference form. They claim there's multiple factors but in reality it's purely travel costs.
Very geographic. Everyone has the closest school on their permanent.
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