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re: Barrett Jones Becomes the 20th Offensive Lineman Drafted
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:03 pm to DWag215
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:03 pm to DWag215
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But even conceding Fisher > Joeckel, that has nothing to do with Barrett Jones, who's inferior to both.
So it's debatable that a player drafted ahead of a A&M player is better, but any player drafted ahead of a Bama player is better solely based on draft order. Seems legit
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Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:03 pm to Wrenchruh
quote:And Manti Te'o nearly won the Heisman. He was a long way from being the second best player in college.
He won the damn Outland and Rimmington.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:07 pm to DWag215
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Are you saying that the media liked a guy who could give them a decent soundbyte and interview? A guy who gave them good quotes for stories? I am shocked at this thinking.
I don't think he was awarded the outland for giving a sound bite. He was overrated as a player on the field. period.
I like the kid as a person and I think hell be a long time starter in the NFL, i wish the cowboys had got him. but he wasnt the best lineman in the country.
He got heisman votes for gods sakes.
I watched most of the Bama games this year and he is just not a dominating player. he is a solid smart blocker that is a winning player.
Frankly he got dominated in the A&M game.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:07 pm to DallasAg2011
So, being #19 of all offensive linemen in all of college football is bad? He has a chance to make an NFL team. He is smart and helps those around him and even those far from him. I'm happy for the kid.
Your life must suck.
Your life must suck.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:09 pm to DWag215
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Jones has a liz franc foot injury, so....
He shouldn't be weight-bearing if he really had a Lisfranc dislocation..
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:13 pm to sarc
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So it's debatable that a player drafted ahead of a A&M player is better, but any player drafted ahead of a Bama player is better solely based on draft order. Seems legit
Poor comprehension.
It's debatable that one player is better than the other--who was the presumed best for months.
The differences between them really are negligible.
In no way can you use that to lift up an argument that Jones is better than the eighteen OL who preceded him the in draft, much less any of the nine who went in the first round.
Now kill yourself.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:14 pm to bdelarosa7
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So, being #19 of all offensive linemen in all of college football is bad? He has a chance to make an NFL team. He is smart and helps those around him and even those far from him. I'm happy for the kid. Your life must suck
So my life sucks because I think a CFB player was overrated?
Straw man argument.
I in no way said that a 4th round pick is bad. Tell me where I said that? I even said that I am a fan and I think hell be a good player.
Obviously being drafted in the NFL is an incredible accomplishment.
I simply said that he was overrated by the media.
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:15 pm to wadewilson
quote:He was one of the best holders in college football.
He was just holding out for the right team.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:17 pm to DallasAg2011
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I don't think he was awarded the outland for giving a sound bite. He was overrated as a player on the field. period.
I like the kid as a person and I think hell be a long time starter in the NFL, i wish the cowboys had got him. but he wasnt the best lineman in the country.
I agree with all these things, but I think that he elevated himself to the conversation with his media ubiquity. Hence the overrated discussion.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:20 pm to DWag215
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Poor comprehension
Ironic...
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In no way can you use that to lift up an argument that Jones is better than the eighteen OL who preceded him the in draft, much less any of the nine who went in the first round.
considering that was not my argument at all. My argument was that using your Joeckel/Fisher rational, you can't definitely say that there were 19 OL more impressive than BJ because BJ could be better than 1 or more of them just as Joeckel could be better than Fisher.
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Now kill yourself
Come at me, bro
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:21 pm to DallasAg2011
Their whole offensive line was overrated. A&M's was clearly better.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:24 pm to TeLeFaWx
shite's about to get real.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:25 pm to wadewilson
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:28 pm to DallasAg2011
Manti teo would be the correct answer
This post was edited on 4/27/13 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:30 pm to WestCoastAg
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Manti teo would be the correct answer
Thats probably true. Teo was more overrated than Jones.
Teo was one of the most decorated players ever.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:37 pm to DallasAg2011
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I am not trying to flame. I am being serious. I am actually a fan of the kid, but good lord did the media overrate him.
Seems we've had this conversation about JFF and Tim Tebow, too. What makes a good college player doesn't necessarily translate into the NFL. Barrett Jones was smart, hard working, and had impeccable character. The media loves that shite.
Find me a link where Barret Jones was projected to go in the first round . .
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:37 pm to Politiceaux
Lol at LSU fans calling Teo overrated because he was a heisman finalist that was drafted in the second round.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:40 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Lol at LSU fans calling Teo overrated because he was a heisman finalist that was drafted in the second round.
.......................................I still don't see any reason why he can't be criticized.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:40 pm to sarc
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My argument was that using your Joeckel/Fisher rational, you can't definitely say that there were 19 OL more impressive than BJ because BJ could be better than 1 or more of them just as Joeckel could be better than Fisher.
He might well have been better than one or two--hell, maybe three or four.
Now what about the other 14? Note, you're still not in the first round yet.
Posted on 4/27/13 at 1:41 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Lol at LSU fans calling Teo overrated because he was a heisman finalist that was drafted in the second round.
Considering TM7 had similar coverage and was a heisman finalist . . and was picked how many spots down from Dee Milliner?
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