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Bama still playing Miller is because he hasn't been charged w/a crime

Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7143 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:06 pm
Prosecutors don't have any evidence of Miller being an accessory -- even though he's the one who brought the actual murderer the gun -- because there is no evidence of Miller having prior knowledge of and INTENT of that weapon to be used in a crime!

Under law in just about every state, Miller wouldn't be charged under the circumstances. There's just no evidence of Miller's intent that would reveal him purposely being involved with the murder. Until there is, I can see why he is still being allowed to play.

Early on, I thought it would be wise for Oates to suspend Miller until everything was cleared up. I still do, but he doesn't have to.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4436 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:08 pm to
Ummm sir, this isn’t a place for common sense and logic.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:10 pm to
Not sure this needed a new thread but I agree.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Under law in just about every state, Miller wouldn't be charged under the circumstances.


People have been charged for much less, but those people aren't the star basketball player at the University of Alabama. Whether they have enough to convict him is another matter.
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2016
704 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:14 pm to
What do you expect? One event happened out of state, and one event happened in Tuscaloosa...guess which one got swept under the rug?
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6787 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:17 pm to
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guess which one got swept under the rug?


If you are going to tell a lie, make it a BIG one!!
Posted by Le Coq Sportif
Lowcountry
Member since Mar 2022
88 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:36 pm to
The prosecutor would need a new job if they charged , tanking Bama’s season , then failed to get a conviction
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2388 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:41 pm to
I know, it's really crazy that he is not being arrested for his actions that did not break any laws.

It's almost like we are in a country of rules and laws.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13926 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:45 pm to
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People have been charged for much less, but those people aren't the star basketball player at the University of Alabama. Whether they have enough to convict him is another matter.


You just answered your own dilemma. Lots of folks get charged. Just go down to your local police station and file.

Covicting is a different matter. You had better have the legal facts. Otherwise, you could end up like the foolish DA that was disbarred because he rushed to judgement with the Duke players.

Stupid is as stupid does.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12456 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:47 pm to
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It's almost like we are in a country of rules and laws.

None of those matter if the person in question is involved with Bama athletics apparently.
Posted by AUDevil
Somewhere
Member since Jul 2016
704 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:49 pm to
Asterisk season.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2170 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:51 pm to
I'm with you going back to the beginning, I would've suspended him for one game for putting himself in that situation, as Saban rightly said, then afterward would have waited until investigation played out before doing anything else, which at this point would seem like nothing else is going to happen so no further punishment needed.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9656 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:54 pm to
Too much common sense here. Even one of the witnesses who said she saw Brandon hand something said it kinda looked like he passed some food after she was pressed. I still stand behind he should have been suspended until all witnesses and testimony was done. He’d have been out maybe 4 games.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
3967 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:56 pm to
Let's be honest here. Most of us want him to sit because we hate Bama. If he were our team, we'd want him playing. Some will lie and say that's not true, but most of them will be lying.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:58 pm to
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People have been charged for much less
This isn't about your lingering resentment over the last few DUIs you got popped for.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 1:01 pm
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Early on, I thought it would be wise for Oates to suspend Miller until everything was cleared up. I still do, but he doesn't have to.
People keep saying this, like there is still some kind of ongoing investigation into Brandon Miller's involvement. There's not. There's nothing to "clear up". There's a murder case against a former teammate and his friend which may or may not result in a conviction of some kind, and based the latest available information may not actually be the slam-dunk people originally thought it would be. That case may take years to wind its way through the legal system.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10341 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:01 pm to
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I still stand behind he should have been suspended until all witnesses and testimony was done. He’d have been out maybe 4 games.

The case hasn't gone to trial yet.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42108 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:02 pm to
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What do you expect? One event happened out of state, and one event happened in Tuscaloosa...guess which one got swept under the rug?

If you’re comparing this to the Mitchell case, they had the evidence they needed to bring charges against Mitchell. In the Miller case, they did not. Unless you’re advocating for charging people with crimes for which the prosecutors lack the evidence meet the elements of.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 1:06 pm to
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because there is no evidence of Miller having prior knowledge of and INTENT of that weapon to be used in a crime!


There’s not “no evidence.” There is not conclusive evidence. People have been charged with less evidence.
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