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re: Bama starting the domino of changing schedules

Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:53 pm to
I don’t blame Bama. Look at LSU in 2022 and 2023. If it's the current 12 team playoff, those Florida State losses keep LSU out, while teams like Penn State get in playing nobody OOC. This year Fla State may keep the Tide out.
Texas is likely out because 3 losses, and they opened at Ohio State.

There's zero reason to take that chance. Spare me the "don't be a pussy" comments; would you rather play a good team in September, or make the playoffs?
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:54 pm to
They have done that forever.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:57 pm to
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Auburn has an upcoming home and home with Notre Dame and then a home and home with Miami. We don't have to sit anything out.

Well when you can’t win 6 games, you really have nothing to lose by scheduling those big games. You’re not sniffing the playoffs anyway
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
Ohio State is 140 -14 at home the past 20 years.

Go play in Columbus then get back to me. ND is not the same thing especially this year.

Yes we could, or we could do what 95% of the rest of college football does which is schedule an FCS (Texas doesn't do this) or 3 G5 and a cupcake P4 member.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
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would you rather play a good team in September, or make the playoffs?
Which only accelerates the trend away from playing meaningful games on campuses.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15279 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:03 pm to
Frick the committee
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25105 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:07 pm to
The whole point of the playoff being 12 teams was that you could have these games and not get that hurt by them. Texas isn't out of the playoff because they lost to OSU, it's because they lost to 4-8 Florida.

If Bama doesn't make it, it's because they lost to a terrible FSU team by 2 TDs.

If you win the OOC games, then you don't have worries
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:12 pm to
That works in a vacuum when every team is playing an equally weighted or even close OOC or SOS.

When teams are ducking competition to pad their W-L record its bad for the sport and bad for TV.

Our game had 15M views and it was a noon kick. Whats that same game Ohio State playing Wake Forest or Texas playing Purdue? half maybe.

Kuddos to both our schools for scheduling, the point is F the pansies who run from decent OOC scheduling (95% of CFB) so if the committee is not going to follow their own SOS principles for getting into the CFB Playoff I say Texas should join the rest of the college teams and schedule cupcakes.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
2309 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:46 pm to
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Shameful what Bama is doing
Wrong....Any SEC team scheduling an OOC game that their 2nd strong couldn't start and win is stupid. The playoff committee only cares about W-L and the SEC already has a rough 9 game schedule to face. Bama is smart and teams will follow their lead.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Bird_Hunter
Chicago
Member since Nov 2023
897 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 5:48 pm to
UVA and Tulane getting in …what are we doing here
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23074 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:17 am to
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quote:

would you rather play a good team in September, or make the playoffs?

Which only accelerates the trend away from playing meaningful games on campuses.
That's a Notre Dame problem, honestly. If you're in a conference, you get plenty of meaningful games all year.

I see you've got a Texas logo on your name; you had Vandy (#9 at the time), and A&M (#3 at the time) at home. Would have had Oklahoma (#6) if you would play home-and-home, it's y'alls choice to play it neutral site every year. And for road games in conference, you got Georgia (#5, now #3), a loss at Florida, and OT wins at Kentucky and Miss State.

Your strength of schedule ain't getting hurt by not playing Ohio State to open the season, it would just give you a better shot of seeing them in the playoffs.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3540 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:25 am to
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3 nobodies


Yes, we should have scheduled powerhouses like San Jose St, UTEP, and Sam Houston like UT did.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10630 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:37 am to
I started a thread yesterday about making SOS ratings actionable and an objective measurement. People love to blab about SOS but for some reason the average Joe fan still thinks very much like the committee. There is ZERO logical reason to have a strong SOS when there is serious debate between a 10-2 team with 40th ranked SOS and another 10-2 team with a top 10 SOS amongst the CFBP committee
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46106 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:42 am to
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And next year the committee will change their criteria to put a lot more emphasis on SOS. If humans are involved, and zero set in stone rules, expect things to constantly change.
This.

It will also get to the point that teams are not scheduling difficult OOC games, so that it will be harder to differentiate between bubble teams. Someone will be left out because their soft schedule wasn’t quite as good as someone else’s soft schedule, so they will go after the risk/reward of a harder OOC game to try to boost their quality wins.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3230 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:46 am to
Maybe the SEC goes with 8 conference games…..
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10630 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:49 am to
Oregon, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana have been the biggest offenders. We need to have mandatory OOC crossover if we are mutually gonna have a playoff. ND playing just the last place SEC team is not good enough. Bama took a risk and scheduled what usually is two good P4 conference teams and it blew up in their face with a terrible loss. When you schedule those games, you take the risk that you may play your worst game of the season in the driving rain and the other team plays a great game. Too many non-SEC teams get to skate by without doing that *cough Oregon *cough Indiana *cough Penn St *cough ND
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:50 am to
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exas SOS was 6th last year so yeah I was not complaining. I think you listened to too many "Texas has an easy SEC schedule" without actually looking at data.


It was 6th due to the inclusion of the playoffs, not because of regular season. I didn't criticize the Texas schedule last season because, as a whole, the SEC lays the schedule out, outside of OOC games.

Texas played the #12, #4 and #8 teams in the playoffs. That is what pushed you to the #6 overall SOS. You are criticizing how the schedules stand right now, which is pre-playoff matchups.

ETA
Just checked and at the end of the regular season, Texas showed the #49 SOS by Sagarin, which is the most widely accepted.
By contrast, Texas has the #13 SOS this season. (It's only fair that I should say Georgia is at #18 this season)

SEC Sagarin SOS 2025:

Florida #1
Arkansas #3
Kentucky #4
South Carolina #5
Alabama #8
LSU #9
Oklahoma #10
Mississippi State #11
Auburn #12
Texas #13
Texas A&M #15
Georgia #18
Vandy #21
Missouri #25
Tennessee #39
Ole Miss #40

Other notable teams outside the SEC:

Oregon #16
Miami #28
ND #32
OSU #37
BYU #44
Indiana #56
Virginia #64
Texas Tech #69
James Madison #99
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 7:13 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10630 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 6:53 am to
quote:

quote:
And next year the committee will change their criteria to put a lot more emphasis on SOS. If humans are involved, and zero set in stone rules, expect things to constantly change.
This.

It will also get to the point that teams are not scheduling difficult OOC games, so that it will be harder to differentiate between bubble teams. Someone will be left out because their soft schedule wasn’t quite as good as someone else’s soft schedule, so they will go after the risk/reward of a harder OOC game to try to boost their quality wins.


Yep we heard this song and dance from CFB Playoff already that they were gonna emphasize SOS...yet in the end they didnt. You cant leave it up to humans. The conferences need to come together and agree to an objective SOS metric *with mandatory OOC crossover scheduling* and it be actionable with real teeth
This post was edited on 12/3/25 at 6:54 am
Posted by off_season
Florida
Member since Jul 2014
1110 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:24 am to
As well he should be.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
1775 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 7:29 am to
Thanks for clarifying.

Even with the 49 SOS we were 11-1 last year and missed a bye which is a better SOS than tech and right around Ohio state this year I think. Point is at 11-1 last year we were in regardless, don’t like the system it should be more about sos
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