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re: Auburn: You ready to pay Saban/Calipari money for a bb coach?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:56 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:56 pm to Irons Puppet
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Football has made it to the Championship game the last 10 years and was a major factor in 2017.
And in spite of that, what was the name of the guy you hired a year ago?
Gene Chizik. Gus Malzahn. Bryan Harsin. None of those guys are ever in the discussion of top coaches. When you did manage to win a championship...due almost exclusively because of one transfer player...were you able to parlay that into any kind of sustained success? No. Your program turned to shite in practically record time.
How high is your ceiling in football? You're incapable of hiring one of the top coaches in the country. LSU hired a guy who's been in the BCS championship game, and also has been in the CFP. Who did Auburn hire?
Basketball...in contrast...you managed to hire one of the best coaches currently in the country. One whose name is always in that discussion. He rewarded you with a Final Four in 2019 and now 3 years later has you ranked #1. That's sustained success at the highest level.
Everyone on this board except you grasps the fact that by definition of the term GOAT, the presence of Saban at Alabama means that your ceiling will never be very high as long as he is there. You're odds of playing in a national championship game while he is there (and also now while Kirby is at Georgia) are extremely slim. The odds of you being in two national championship games in 5 years are smaller than microscopic.
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:01 pm to Arksulli
Do you think Auburn will only make 2 million this season?
You give yourself too much credit. I don't look at the intent behind your posting just asking questions in response.
And you don't think Auburn BB has reached a new level of interest this season possibly raising revenues from the final four run? Did we sell out every home game during that year?
You think more fans are purchasing more concessions, souvenirs, clothing this season?
Should Bruce maintain this level, and in all likelihood will, do you not think revenues will grow annually?
Also, Bruce has been a great marketer for the entire school and bringing major attention and air time on Auburn. That helps generate funding, revenue, etc. for the entire school. That is worth paying the bigger salary for.
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Y'all seem to think I'm mocking Pearl or Auburn here and I'm not.
You give yourself too much credit. I don't look at the intent behind your posting just asking questions in response.
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includes a very recent Final Four run.
And you don't think Auburn BB has reached a new level of interest this season possibly raising revenues from the final four run? Did we sell out every home game during that year?
You think more fans are purchasing more concessions, souvenirs, clothing this season?
Should Bruce maintain this level, and in all likelihood will, do you not think revenues will grow annually?
Also, Bruce has been a great marketer for the entire school and bringing major attention and air time on Auburn. That helps generate funding, revenue, etc. for the entire school. That is worth paying the bigger salary for.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:04 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You're odds of playing in a national championship game while he is there
Auburn has played in 2 NC games while Saban has been at Alabama. We should've played in one in 2004 as well and were one SEC Championship game from playing in another in 2017.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Here in Louisville, Pearl has been mentioned as a potential candidate by pretty well all of the local UofL beat writers.
Auburn beat writers were mentioning Urban Meyer and Bob Stoops too last year. It really doesn't mean much.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
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this is a national story at this point.
This is true, and the question in the title is a legit question.
Louisville BB is a legit threat with the amount of revenue they generate annually is tops in the NCAA, and their facilities are there. Is Bruce the right fit when you consider his standing with the NCAA and the issues Louisville still have and looking at with the NCAA?
You can't say Mack's 6 game suspension played a role in his firing and then say hire Bruce who was also suspended this season. Just my reasoning. Lets see how accurate I am.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:12 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You can't say Mack's 6 game suspension played a role in his firing
You honestly think that is the reason why they got rid of Mack? Naw, Mack lost the locker room and the fan base, that is why they forced him out.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:14 pm to WildcatMike
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played a role
Was it the main reason. You can go read my post on the Auburn board talking about the biggest reason being he lost the locker room to Pegues when he took over those 6 games. Yes the fans/boosters being another reason yes.
However, you think Bruce wants to deal with the NCAA shite? You're crazy if you do
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:14 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You can't say Mack's 6 game suspension played a role in his firing and then say hire Bruce who was also suspended this season.
It's a strange case. Does the interim AD make the hire? Do they wait until they hire a new AD? Do they keep the interim? Definitely a lot of questions. May just depend on who the boosters with all the money want. Seems to be between Bruce and Kenny Payne. And when it comes to the supensions, as we all know, winning cures all. This is the school that hired Petrino back after all
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:15 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:the suspension was by the school and not the ncaa. Likely as an attempt by the school to placate the ncaa and avoid repeat violator status, which is still on the table.
You can't say Mack's 6 game suspension played a role in his firing
Because those issues loom, I think Bruce would be hesitant to jump right back into that limbo and I think UL would have second thoughts about hiring Bruce while waiting to hear its fate from the NCAA.
Now the the ncaa issues at AU are resolved, Bruce has substantial leverage and I suspect he will use it to get paid, add some basketball staff, and get some promises for a new facility.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:16 pm to WildcatMike
Just who do you all think has ever accused Auburn of making wise financial decisions?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:17 pm to CatBBN
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Do they keep the interim?
A former coach with heavy ties to Louisville was on Mark Packer show and said Pegues made a huge impact in those six days. They didn't realize how significant until Mack returned and he lost the locker room. Although, he made no inference as to if Pegues would be the guy. He just said he felt the candidate will be young and energetic ready to take on the rough waters surrounding the program and school. It was pretty interesting.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:20 pm to WDE24
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the suspension was by the school and not the ncaa
I understand. I am meaning in terms of appearance only when referencing the two. I get the school is doing all they can to limit the hit from the NCAA.
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Because those issues loom, I think Bruce would be hesitant to jump right back into that limbo and I think UL would have second thoughts about hiring Bruce while waiting to hear its fate from the NCAA.
This is my biggest point really when referencing the suspensions and Bruce. You just did a better job explaining my position.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:22 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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A former coach with heavy ties to Louisville was on Mark Packer show and said Pegues made a huge impact in those six days
I was referring to the interim AD. They seem to like him. I'm just curious as to who will make these hiring decisions. With all due respect to Pegues, they're gonna look elsewhere. I live in Louisville, and UL fans are miserable rn. They need a big hire to give them a shot to the arm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:24 pm to BigBlue8Titles
The money is coming. Reporting from admin at AU is a contract extension was already in the works. Before the UofL crap even came up a new basketball facility was already on the agenda for a February BoT meeting. AU leadership is going to make a deal that lets Pearl retire at AU.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:25 pm to CatBBN
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I was referring to the interim AD.
Gotcha, I thought you were referring to the program in whole.
The former coach said there is no direction right now, even if the AD is liked, he said there is a lot of unsettled business surrounding UL. Says they eventually will find their way, but the NCAA length of review is killing them. He was very positive about UL and not doom and gloom, but shared the reality of the schools situation at the moment.
Said would be hard for a coach to come in under an interim AD and no school president?
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:27 pm to CatBBN
They probably would like a shot in the arm but now might not be the time. Alabama needed a shot in the arm after Mike Price was caught banging strippers. They didn't get it but got a guy that was loyal to the university that could get them through the mess they were in. Shula got them through a few years and they went out and got their shot in the arm.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:39 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Auburn basketball has had more consistent success the last 5 years than any 5 year period in Auburn football history outside of the 1980s.
Outside the 80s AU has had three undefeated seasons, that with a coaching lineup of Bowden, TT, Chizik and Gus.
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Auburn football has been national championship relevant 4 times in the last 25 years. Auburn basketball has been national championship relevant 2 times in the last 5 years.
AU has finished 5 times in the TOP 10 since 2004. They were in position to compete for the NC several other times and as stated before coaching caused them a chance. But they are capable of recruiting a Top 10 class every year just due to location.
In BB they have made two Final 8 appearances and a Final 4 appearances in that same period. Bottom line is the ceiling is the same for both programs, the key is to find the right coach. AU has hired the Fruit of the Month Club Member multiple times. Same as other programs in the SEC that have had struggles at different times. Wink, Wink.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:54 pm to Irons Puppet
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Outside the 80s AU has had three undefeated seasons, that with a coaching lineup of Bowden, TT, Chizik and Gus.
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consistent success
You chose to ignore the difference and the entire point
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AU has finished 5 times in the TOP 10 since 2004
And hasn't done it in back to back years one time. It can't consistently sustain Top 10 level success. That is the entire point here. And it's something Bruce has already shown can be done in basketball with a recruiting pipeline that enables him to compete, personnel wise, with most anybody in the country. Football flat out does not have that same ability. That's why it takes a great senior class, a great player, etc for Auburn to have 1-2 magical years every 10 and the rest are 8-4/7-5/6-7 years.
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In BB they have made two Final 8 appearances and a Final 4 appearances in that same period. Bottom line is the ceiling is the same for both programs, the key is to find the right coach. AU has hired the Fruit of the Month Club Member multiple times. Same as other programs in the SEC that have had struggles at different times. Wink, Wink.
The irony here is Auburn literally just hired a Fruit of the Month Club Member to be their football coach, and is getting and will continue to get the results that generally leads to.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
This thread is exactly why he'll leave. 8 page thread that's devolved into Alabama/Auburn football talk like always. Auburn basketball is a joke.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 2:58 pm to WildcatMike
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Cal has some of his swag back
Did you see him whining about banning screens in the game of basketball a few days ago?
If that's "swag", he can have it all.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 2:58 pm
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