MikeTheTiger71
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re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/29/26 at 10:00 am to KWL85
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All these are available: Noot (my guess to start) Cooper Williams Sheerin, Guidry, Garcia, Fontenot Doesn't that look like a group that should be enough for a Sunday game?
It also looks like a group capable of holding a 5 run lead for 4 innings.
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re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/29/26 at 9:59 am to Lester Earl
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The move was the right one. If that lead gets blown then you are sitting here asking why they didn’t go to Cowan
If they NEVER went to Cowan, I would agree, but that’s not what I was suggesting. I was suggesting bringing him in if they gave up another runner or two to shut down the rally at that point.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/29/26 at 9:56 am to tigerskin
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Well you answered your own question
They were two batters away from the tying run even coming to the plate. It wasn’t high leverage. Yes, he should have been ready to go if they allowed another base runner or two, but they should have gone to one of the other guys they are planning to use situationally today. Now, if the belief is Cowan is the only remaining pitcher they can trust, then by all means get the one win, but if that’s the best they can hope for, then this season is lost anyway. They can’t keep losing series, especially at home.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/29/26 at 8:33 am to jasonbr1975
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Because you secure the W
He maximized the chances of getting one win at the cost of the chances of winning the series. There is absolutely no question that their chances of winning today are significantly worse without having Cowan available. Again, I never suggested he not have Cowan available yesterday if a high leverage situation arose, but if the rest of the staff couldn’t hold Kentucky to 6 runs in 3.1 IP, how are they going to pitch well enough to win today?
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 10:56 pm to tigerskin
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Jay said he considered it but simply had to get the W today. Some things will work, some won't but you can rest assured that Jay analyzes the options backwards and forwards
Oh, I absolutely agree he analyzing everything to the nth degree. Nothing in what I have said should be construed as thinking Johnson isn’t the best coach in college baseball right now. I get the rationale for wanting to ensure the victory today and if this were a one-off I wouldn’t have commented. It’s what he does more often than not sticking to a predetermined game plan and not adjusting for the circumstances. We’ll see if they have enough pitching tomorrow or can outscore them. I’d feel better if they had Cowan available.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 9:21 pm to Madking
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Your Thread Title quote:Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
This is NOT my thread. No wonder you’ve been coming after me so hard. I’m not sure where you got the idea I started this topic.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 9:19 pm to Crusaders6767
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Bruh we talking about a national championship coach. I trust he knows what hes doing. I'm sure he has a plan
I know he had a plan and it was a good plan knowing Schmidt wasn’t going to go the distance to have another guy like Cowan who could take it 3-4 innings after him. My issue isn’t with the lack of planning. It’s with the rigidity with which Johnson tends to stick to his plans regardless of game circumstances. I’m not questioning his competence from a big picture perspective nor do I question his ability to prepare his team for postseason. I just think sometimes he gives games away in the regular season that aren’t entirely necessary to achieve postseason success.
LSU didn’t need a shutout today. If the same pitchers they are going to have to rely on to get them 9 IP tomorrow couldn’t have given them 3.1 IP with 6 or fewer runs today, then they are in trouble. Cowan pitching 3-5 innings of shutout ball tomorrow likely has more impact than it did today. He should have been ready to go today if things got tight, but there was no reason not to try to get innings out of guys they are going to have to use anyway with a 5 run lead and especially when they extended to 7.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 9:00 pm to Madking
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You’ve also gone this entire thread refusing to define and dodging the question of what you think is elite which allows you to keep the target moving.
This right here explains where you went off the rails in this discussion. I never once used the word elite, you never mentioned anything about defining elite, and you never asked me what it takes to be elite. I get the OP made that point, but I wasn’t responding to the OP and my comments weren’t about being elite. I didn’t refuse to define elite. It was never brought up. My comments about conference strength were in regards to whether it will be easier or more difficult for Wade to be successful this time around. It was never a commentary or a criticism on Wade. It was never a prediction.
If you want me to define elite, fine. I wouldn’t consider a coach elite until he makes it to the Final 4, certainly until he gets past the Sweet 16. Many see potential in Wade to take that next step. As an LSU fan I am 100% rooting for him to do so.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 4:26 pm to vidtiger23
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But what if he brings someone else in and they give up a hit and it’s now 5-2?
Then you bring in Cowan at that point. I wasn’t suggesting never going to Cowan, only waiting until a higher leverage situation and hoping it never gets to that point. They have to cobble together 13 more innings from this staff. If they can’t count on the other guys to hold a 5 run lead that doesn’t bode well for tomorrow. It’s sad if he’s to the point he thinks he has to salvage one win instead of trying to maximize the likelihood of taking the series.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 4:22 pm to saint tiger225
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Because he's not taking a chance with the lead. Have you not been paying attention to this team recently? You don't try to steal anything with the way things have gone lately. Do whatever you can to get the win today and worry about tomorrow when we get there.
I wasn’t suggesting that he hold back Cowan no matter what, only suggesting waiting for a high leverage situation and hope one doesn’t materialize. They have a better chance of finding 4 innings today from other pitchers up 5 runs than they do finding 9 innings tomorrow starting at 0-0.
re: Oh oh looks like Cowan aint starting tomorrow
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 4:13 pm to Double Oh
This is one thing that frustrates me about Johnson. Having a plan to pitch Schmidt 5-6 innings then bring in Cowan makes sense, but if you can get through this game now without a high leverage situation developing, why not pivot and try to save Cowan for tomorrow?
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 2:08 pm to Alt26
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What has improved the SEC is not better funding. It's what ALWAYS improves programs. Better coaching.
To some extent, the two go hand-in-hand. The schools with better coaches now made an investment in those coaches and have committed funds to build the rosters they need to compete. Most had mediocre coaches before because they weren’t invested in their programs. That also doesn’t explain the fact that coaches like Barnes and Oats have taken things up a notch since Wade was fired.
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But it won't be a funding discrepancy that determines the outcome.
Obviously you need players and coaches. My point was that Wade isn’t going to be any better funded relative to other schools in the conference than he was before. The existence of revenue sharing and NIL won’t make him more successful. Whether it’s coaching, funding, or some combination of the two, the league is more competitive now. That doesn’t mean Wade can’t compete, but it’s inaccurate to think it’s going to be easier for him now.
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But I am 100% confident the results will be VASTLY different from the last 4 seasons.
I don’t disagree with that. Wade is clearly better than McMahon.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 1:11 pm to Madking
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You’re just trolling at this point
And you’re projecting.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 1:08 am to Madking
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Again being dishonest and that proof can go back to the first couple of exchanges where you went back and forth on your takes, created straw men, moved goal posts and ran away from topics. I
I have not done a single one of the things you have accused me of. You’re the one that’s gone off topic and argued against points I never made. You’re the one being dishonest making false accusations. I can’t help it if you read things into my posts that weren’t there because you made assumptions about my opinions and motives that were incorrect. You’ve lost all rationality because something set you off.
By and large I have stayed out of the MBB discussions on this board, so the idea that you think I’m parroting talking points is laughable. I wouldn’t even know what the talking points are to be able to parrot them. The SEC is stronger now than during Wade’s first tenure. That’s not even debatable. More SEC teams are well-funded now than before. There’s no direct evidence of that since most cheating programs were better at hiding it, but the results on the court certainly suggest that is the case. Either some programs weren’t cheating then or they were just bad at it. Wade isn’t walking into a better position funding wise than he had before. He’ll have more money to spend, but so does everyone else. That’s the end of my point. Whatever else you are reading into that that has set you off is wrong.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 12:50 am to Madking
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You don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about
Again, what you think I do or do not know isn’t going to set me off given it’s pretty clear you are clueless about what my opinion even is. You’ve just gone off the deep end because you’ve decided I’m the enemy for some reason you can’t even articulate.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 12:46 am to drizztiger
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I am literally that dude and I consider myself an LSU MBB fan. I’ll take it everyday and twice on Sundays.
But like you said in another post, you’re an LSU fan first and foremost, not a Wade fanboy. I’d be happy if LSU is a consistent tournament team with an occasional Sweet 16 as well. I’m not saying I’m disappointed in the hire, at least not from a performance on the court perspective. I just think that most of those giddy over this hire truly believe they are getting more than just consistent tournament appearances. I hope they turn out to be right, but Wade’s going to have to show he can take the next step first. It’s definitely possible he can, but far from a certainty.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/28/26 at 12:37 am to Madking
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Again, pure make believe. You’re just ignorant so your arguments can only be fantasies since you know nothing.
I know you’re trying to rile me up, but all you’re doing is making yourself look unhinged.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/27/26 at 11:00 pm to Madking
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If your theory were true Mike White would be having Matt McMahon type seasons but he isn’t because it isn’t. You don’t know what you’re talking about
Not if Mike White wasn’t cheating at Florida and was getting left behind by those who were. And, again, you’re using one potential counter-example to nullify the overwhelming pattern overall. Besides, he’s NOT doing better at Georgia than he did at Florida. This was his first season with a winning conference record after 3 losing seasons. He had 4 winning seasons out of 6 at Florida and two at 9-9. He’s had 2 first round exits and 2 years not in the tournament at Georgia vs an Elite 8 and 3 Second Round exits in 6 seasons at Florida.
You’re being ridiculously hostile in your responses to me with absolutely no provocation. What is it that you think I am saying about Wade that’s got you worked up into such a lather? Chances are good that whatever it is, you are wrong.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/27/26 at 9:53 pm to Madking
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You’re full of shite as your last post clearly shows. You pointed out facts? by leaving out half of the topic to distort what was said and skip over the actual point. You can frick off now, you’re just a dishonest waste of time.
What was the actual point? What’s your explanation for why Barnes and Oats are more successful now than they were during Wade’s first tenure when you acknowledge they were amongst the best coaches then? Why has the SEC sent more teams to the NCAA tournament, Sweet 16, and Final 4 than they did from 2018-2022? No one who’s been paying even the slightest attention thinks the SEC was stronger 2018-2022 than it has been 2023-2026. Because I missed your point about Mike White it invalidates my entire argument and nullifies the overall increased success of the conference?
I have no idea what point you think I’m making, but you keep arguing against points I didn’t make and assume I think things I do not. The one and only point I have made is that the SEC is stronger now than it was under Wade’s prior tenure because more SEC teams are pouring resources (and a lot more of them) into paying players.
Wade isn’t necessarily going to be at a disadvantage in the resources at his disposal, but he won’t have a built in advantage like he did relative to teams that weren’t cheating before. NIL and revenue sharing don’t put him in a better position when most other league schools have similar pools of money. I’m not saying he won’t be successful, only that there’s no reason to think money will make him MORE successful than last time.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/27/26 at 8:46 pm to Madking
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Lmfao, that’s about as dishonest a post as I’ve ever seen. Up to this point I figured you were just a little ignorant but now I’m convinced you’re just an agenda driven liar
I don’t give a rip one way or the other about Wade. I don’t love him. I don’t hate him. I just don’t see how anyone can look at the SEC and not think it is stronger and deeper now than it was during Wade’s first tenure. I posted nothing but facts, so I’m not the one being dishonest and agenda driven if you are going to argue they aren’t true.
re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted by MikeTheTiger71 on 3/27/26 at 8:25 pm to Madking
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The top coaches in that era were Cal Oats Barnes Pearl
2018-2022
Cal: 2 Sweet 16s and 0 Final 4s
Oats: 1 Sweet 16
Barnes: 1 Sweet 16
2023-2026
Cal: 2 Sweet 16s
Oats: 4 Sweet 16s and 1 Final 4
Barnes: 4 Sweet 16
I’m not at all sure how you think it makes your case to point out that the best coaches of that era weren’t as successful then as they have been since Wade was fired. It only underscores my point that SEC schools are funding their programs better now than during Wade’s first tour. Yes, Pearl is now gone, but replaced by Golden at Florida. Texas has been added to the conference and is in the Sweet 16. Georgia, Missouri, Ole Miss, and A&M are all stronger programs than they were back then.
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