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Posted by tigerboi256
AU Athletic Dept
Member since Jan 2013
291 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:07 am to
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As in all of these cases, it seems like this is law enforcement's jurisdiction, not a football coaches. Spouses and Girfriends change their mind's all the time leading to even more difficult legal decisions for employers. 


Maybe so, but when you are publicly asked if you had knowledge of a situation, and you emphatically deny (instead of simply stating "no comment" or "I'll only be answering football related questions") you prepare your anus for the oncoming media assault when that's found to be false
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34233 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:08 am to
What was Joe Paterno supposed to do? He didn’t see Sandusky in the shower with a 12 year old
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:09 am to
Oh, and McMurphy is wrong in the linked post. This would not be a Title IX violation as the alleged abuse did not occur within the program or institution.

And employee of the school beating his wife, while repugnant, is NOT a Title IX issue.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:10 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15620 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:10 am to
Paterno and the victims should have immediately reported it to law enforcement. This was a serial situation and not isolated to one person.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28443 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:12 am to
The allegations against Urban are completely different than those against Paterno.

Urban was under no duty to protect his coach’s wife, whereas Paterno was under a duty to protect the kids who were at his football camps.

This is a complete non-story. Sure, it looks bad that Urban may have left a woman beater on the staff and perhaps even lied about knowing of the allegations against the coach. However, that knowledge will not result in any actual ramifications, other than a media onslaught.

Furthermore, is Brett McMurphy really basing his claim that Urban had knowledge of the alleged abuse on the fact his wife and the other coaches’ wives knew? That’s weak sauce.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:15 am to
quote:

What was Joe Paterno supposed to do?


Paterno was under legal obligation to report abuse by an employee within the program. In this case, the abuse was occurring at programs that were hosted by the University and in some cases on the campus itself.

Urban Meyer is under no legal obligation to protect the wife of an employee.

Morally not much if a distinction, but legally it's a HUGE difference.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Maybe so, but when you are publicly asked if you had knowledge of a situation, and you emphatically deny


Yep, this issue is beyond him hiring and keeping the coach. If the texts are true then he lied to the media and knew for a few years. That is going to be a much bigger issue going forward.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22296 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:17 am to
Looking forward to Alabama’s newest offensive consultant: Urban Meyer
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37019 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:17 am to
*heart palpitations intensifying*
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15620 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:17 am to
Lying to the media is not a crime....
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1681 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Lying to the media is not a crime

I’m thinking people are more concerned that he may have known about the abuse than they are about lying to the media.
Posted by TeddyWestside
Georgia
Member since Jul 2017
3155 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:20 am to
Who has said that Urban Meyer has committed a crime?
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
Member since Mar 2011
5348 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:24 am to
Urban Meyer once said Aaron Hernandez is a "good kid".
Meyer is a self righteous POS.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15620 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:25 am to
VOLS PLAYERS WERE CLEARED IN 1.5 HOURS OF DELIBERATION....I HATE THE VOLS....
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:25 am to
Meyer gone..Zach Smith has the steroids look... Courtney sounds like a nasty bitch unsympathetic to secretary in 09 which started it...maybe she had an abortion and reaping what she sowed...urban lied and no action I think he's gone
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:32 am
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:26 am to
Pretty bullshite that Harbaugh is about to get a pass without fielding a team that’d actually win his division

frick Urban Meyer though. True, unadulterated slime
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34227 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

As in all of these cases, it seems like this is law enforcement's jurisdiction, not a football coaches. Spouses and Girfriends change their mind's all the time leading to even more difficult legal decisions for employers.

Domestic violence must be reported to police period, not an employer. Meanwhile once both sides are on record in pre court proceedings, the employer could begin to act.


If you are aware of potential domestic violence, sexual assault, etc - and you don't do anything, then you are comitting Misprison Of Felony.

quote:

Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both


If your employer learns of a potential felony that you are committing, and doesn't report it, they are also guilty of a crime.

Presuming he knew prior to charges filed, of course.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by VagueMessage
Springdale, AR
Member since Jun 2013
4318 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:32 am to
LINK

OSU's fan forum with the years-old 724 page Urban Meyer megathread if anyone wants to jump toward the end and follow their reactions.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:32 am to
Bless his ... heart.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Lying to the media is not a crime....


Agreed, now tell me where I said that

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