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re: Arkansas now agrees to play in-state schools...

Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

You kinda still are.


Up until the last few years we were top 25 all-time in winning percentage. Far cry from where we were back then.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19337 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:01 pm to
Yep,we're having a bad stretch,like lsu in the 90's.

We'll be back,folks care too much to let it stay down.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:23 pm to
We were approaching top 15 until Hatfield left and we joined the SEC. We went 22 seasons without a losing season.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19337 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:37 pm to
The coaching tree under Broyles is pretty impressive.

Many don't like Frank,but he built and loved our program and,like him or not,deserves our appreciation.

I wonder where we'd be had he not come along.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 3:51 pm to
They certainly wouldn't be in a power five conference. Probably like Kansas in football. They would have terrible fan support and would support more pro teams like the Cardinals.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:17 pm to
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Why would a state school not encourage keeping money within the state.



Ole Miss is the same way, they refuse to play USM in football. Idk if they play the HBCUs or not. They wouldn't play us if the SEC didn't make them. (or this is what they claim whenever they start losing)

I know Dan made the comment MSU was the best team in the state and he would prove it, so over his tenure we scheduled every school in the state we could and beat them.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41194 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:38 pm to
Arkansas State's AD has a good sense of humor.

Back in October he said after they ended discussion about playing each other, "we have nothing to gain from playing the team in Fayetteville"

When former Razorback AD got hired at Kansas he tweeted him something like -Want to play a home and home? Too soon?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:19 pm to
Oh the AD that got fired. Ok Jeff long who can forget that turd. Looks like the toilet should have been flushed a second time, those Jeff Long turds are hard to flush as they are prone to stop up the drainage system.

Screw those shite stains in Jonesboro. They had to receive money for arse beatings from power five schools because they themselves can't put up the funds to keep that pee wee football program afloat.

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:22 pm to
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Arkansas state has been a bowl eligible team these last 10 years. They get transfers each year from power 5 teams. They are better than San Jose state.

That must be the reason why Arkansas refuses to play them.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:46 pm to
The last 10 years? Let us see here.

2010 team 55-3

2011 team 50-13

2012 team-Arkansas state biggest chance but Arkansas still sneaks one in. 45-38.

2013 team- 31-14

2014 team 42-10

2015 team- Another chance for Arkansas state as Bert still has a hangover but ASU isn't Toledo. 28-17.

2016 team- 38-17

2017 team- 42-24

2018 team-ASU finally does it after Ty Storey fumbles at the 15 yard line. Scope and score. ASU 32-28.

2019 team- Arkansas comes back and wins 35-21. Club dub party is here and the Chad proceeds to lose out.

What do we gain by playing a sunbelt school when we could benefit much more by beating a team like Notre Dame instead.


Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11456 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:10 am to
This announcement doesn't include football, Hogs still scared of Indians.

"Yurachek said he told Arkansas’ head coaches in a Zoom meeting Wednesday they are free to schedule UCA and ASU in all sports other than football."
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 10:38 am to
Our non-conference schedule is booked up for the next six years. Notre Dame and Texas are coming up. This is nothing more than supporting our University affiliated schools.

The possibility of having a nine game SEC schedule is looming and even more into the future of not having a non-conference schedule at all. I don't see the point of playing these boring cupcake teams when you could schedule a big name that actually helps your team.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 11:06 am to
When Arkansas state got up to a 20 point lead. Frank was ready to pull the trigger on Nolan but they came back and won. Saving Nolan's job.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:49 pm to
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What do we gain by playing a sunbelt school when we could benefit much more by beating a team like Notre Dame instead.


You gain the same thing you do when you schedule the Western Kentucky and ULM's of the world. What does Notre Dame gain by playing Arkansas?
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5048 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:08 pm to
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You gain the same thing you do when you schedule the Western Kentucky and ULM's of the world.



Eh, I think an early season game against Notre Dame on NBC has a whole lot more potential to benefit the program than a 11:30 SEC Network game vs Western Kentucky.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41194 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:21 pm to
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he last 10 years? Let us see here.

2010 team 55-3

2011 team 50-13

2012 team-Arkansas state biggest chance but Arkansas still sneaks one in. 45-38.

2013 team- 31-14

2014 team 42-10

2015 team- Another chance for Arkansas state as Bert still has a hangover but ASU isn't Toledo. 28-17.

2016 team- 38-17

2017 team- 42-24

2018 team-ASU finally does it after Ty Storey fumbles at the 15 yard line. Scope and score. ASU 32-28.

2019 team- Arkansas comes back and wins 35-21. Club dub party is here and the Chad proceeds to lose out.

What do we gain by playing a sunbelt school when we could benefit much more by beating a team like Notre Dame instead.


In that time frame, y'all have lost to ULM, Rutgers (twice), Toledo, Colorado State, Vanderbilt, San Jose State, and Western Kentucky. No way y'all would have beaten them 9 of ten times, 5 maybe 6.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7515 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 1:29 pm to
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In that time frame, y'all have lost to ULM, Rutgers (twice), Toledo, Colorado State, Vanderbilt, San Jose State, and Western Kentucky. No way y'all would have beaten them 9 of ten times, 5 maybe 6.


Most of those happened in like the same 3 years. Plus that Toledo team ended up 11-2 and in the top 25. Arkansas State has been a decent program and consistently wins 8 games but hell they lost to Central Arkansas a few years ago lol.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:04 pm to
No SEC team or a member of a power five gains anything from beating a Sunbelt team. Fans complain a bout paying big money and go to the trouble of attending these non-conference games when it is over at half. You lose because you pay millions to these teams for their financial gain. So if you win, you lose and if you lose then you still lost money. No power five team should carry that burden and look out for them when it doesn't benefit your school.

Notre Dame has absolutely nothing to gain by playing us. But I have read an article a bout Notre Dame fans complaining that Brian Kelly doesn't schedule enough strong opponents. While Arkansas is terrible, it is still an SEC team and being part of the strongest conference in the land has its benefits. So Notre Dame does gain something by scheduling an SEC team that is either good or bad and so that answers the complaints from fans.

The pressure is immense on Notre Dame in this game and if they lose then Kelly is on the hot seat and it destroys a chance to go to the playoffs.

Arkansas has a lot more to gain because this means that they are a lot better than people thought and it could be they are going to a decent bowl.

This is a risky move by Notre Dame as Arkansas has exceeded expectations in the past and have beaten teams like them such as Texas in Austin back in 2003 when they were a big underdog. No one knows how Arkansas will do as they are under a different regime with some new faces.

Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:34 pm to
We didn't start losing to Sunbelt teams until 2012 when smile came a long and we still beat Kentucky and Auburn. The ULM loss was on coaching as Arkansas had a big lead at half.

We lost to Rutgers the first time because John L and the team were lazy and didn't condition properly during the summer months. That caught up with them during season until they played someone worse than them.

The second time Arkansas had a big lead and lost. Brandon Allen was hurt and our backup ended up playing tight end.

We lost to Toledo because Bert was complaining a bout playing in Little Rock and didn't prepare his team. It also didn't help that Brandon Allen was playing chicken shite and was over and under throwing his passes. But yet we still beat Tennessee, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn and Missouri.

We had a 27-9 lead on Colorado State and the team started to quit and lost.

We lost to Vandy because the team had already quit at that point in the season and didn't give a shite. Very poor effort.

Nick Starkel threw five interceptions and they barely won. Arkansas came out flat.

The Western Kentucky game was the worst effort by a razorback team in my life. I saw our own defensive lineman get blocked on purpose so that Ty Storey can get his touchdowns. After the game was over, more than several players huddled up around Storey to say congrats. The team was ready for Chad to go.

A more focused and with better effort razorback teams would beat these teams 9/10 times.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21256 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 2:59 pm to
Considering the team already packed it in and Chad had already lost the team. Unlike the Notre Dame game, the players will have more energy and will play a lot harder.
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