Started By
Message

re: Arkansas fans keep saying that Auburn has saved them money by us hiring Chad Morris.

Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:10 pm to
Thank you for the link Tigerman97.
Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
1969 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:14 pm to
I think it's a good hire. He is not a HC but he is a good OC
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46185 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

I think you are wrong on that. I don't think that Auburn has to foot your bill for anything in that regard. He is free at this point. Why would Auburn have to pay "anything" given that we just hired a free man/coach that was unwillingly let go from another job. Arkansas decided to part ways with their current 2019 Coach. Auburn has nothing to negotiate in hiring a "former and separated" member of your staff. "You" fired him with a contract remaining. Auburn owes no one anything extra other than offering Morris a new job.

Jesus Christ man it’s not that hard.

Arkansas fired Morris and owe him his buyout. However, there’s a clause that says he must look for work to offset that buyout. We hire him and pay Morris whatever salary he negotiates. Due to that clause, the amount of money Arkansas pays Morris is reduced by the amount Auburn is paying him.

Auburn is not payin Arkansas anything but we are reducing the buyout Arkansas owes Morris.

You ask questions but then refute everybody that gives you the answer
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:22 pm to
Doesn't matter, Morris is a good coordinator, him and Gus will do well together, AU was hiring one regardless, it's just Hog fans trying to save face from the abomination their program has become.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53801 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Link: 

LINK


Holy shite. From that thread:

"Morris Auburn intro pic shows him in full Auburn attire with an Auburn headset on, like he's calling plays innan Auburn game. I think he was intentionally trying to help Gus by torpedoing our program. 

We don't need to ever let anyone with any connection to Gus malzahn near our program ever, ever again... Not high freeze, not Eli Drinkwitz, not Rhett  Lashlee either. They cannot be trusted."
Posted by TrueReb13
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:25 pm to
Buyouts are reduced if fired coach takes an equal title usually. We have to pay Luke’s full buyout after he got OL job at Georgia
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:29 pm to
I have refuted answers only because I was not offered concrete evidence. Only message board speculations.

That is why I asked the initial question.

Thank you for your respective replies.

This post has served its purpose.
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:34 pm to
On that note, I too think that Arkansas has made yet another desperate and horrible mistake.

But that is on them. Auburn has no infatuation with that program either way.
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:41 pm to
That thread is really something.

According to them, Auburn is placing spies into their program and that is the sole reason that they have been unable to succeed in the SEC since 1992.

Auburn somehow just really "hates" Arkansas according to their minds and mentality.

Auburn is their answer for everything negative historically.

Have some dignity and look inward Fayetteville. The answers are in your own City and Program, not 700 miles away in Alabama.

Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

On that note, I too think that Arkansas has made yet another desperate and horrible mistake.

But that is on them. Auburn has no infatuation with that program either way.


Well of course they did. They hired a guy that is about to collect social security, is overweight, and has no head coaching/coordinator experience. Should be fun to watch.
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:55 pm to
It will be entertaining for a couple of months, but eventually the SEC is going to have to pay for Arkansas' mistakes.

They are going to be bottom-feeders that suck money from the more successful SEC programs by not having a decent Football and overall Athletic Program.

I don't think that these stupid and desperate hires by teams like Arkansas are amusing when it comes to the overall health of the SEC.

The "more successful" programs in this Conference could use some help in the future.

Ole Miss REALLY stepped up recently in that regard. Very nice job by them!

Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

They are going to be bottom-feeders that suck money from the more successful SEC programs by not having a decent Football and overall Athletic Program


They have baseball, track, and probably basketball again, they aren't bottom feeders. Sure, they blow at football now, but they aren't a threat to be a drain on SEC revenue.
Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:15 pm to
Perhaps so, but getting on par in Education would go a long way for them too.

Track and Baseball are not very memorable accomplishments if your whole University ruins it each and every year by neglecting the real money-making sports.

They really need to give it their all soon, or they need to downgrade and leave the SEC.

Their fans are already questioning a move back to the Big-12.

I don't think that this would be a bad option for both parties going forward, honestly.

Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Perhaps so, but getting on par in Education would go a long way for them too.

Track and Baseball are not very memorable accomplishments if your whole University ruins it each and every year by neglecting the real money-making sports.

They really need to give it their all soon, or they need to downgrade and leave the SEC.

Their fans are already questioning a move back to the Big-12.

I don't think that this would be a bad option for both parties going forward, honestly.


Posted by YodaWithALightSaber
Member since Apr 2019
451 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:26 pm to
That is not a hook my friend.

That is reality hitting you in the face.

Your whole University needs to quit embarrassing the SEC with your desperate decisions.

You guys have done this and failed continuously since joining in 1992 and the SEC has had to share its Money with you for very little return on investment.
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
4961 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

That’s how 95% of these contracts are structured
I don't think this is right. Contracts usually refer to a coaching job and buyouts are involved either way. Alabama is paying pennies in hiring them as an analyst, not a coach, circumventing the wording of the contract. I think once Auburn hired Morris as a coach, Arkansas didn't have to pay him at all, no matter the amount Auburn hired him for. In fact, Auburn may have had to pay Arkansas some form of buyout, I don't know.

Look back at Les Miles. He was owed a lot of $ but Kansas couldn't afford to pay the buyout, so he settled with LSU over his salary so that Kansas could afford to hire him.

There has to be much more to it than simply a difference in pay.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

You ought to see my notepad next to my computer. It is my memory bank.


Is that where you write all the details of hogdom down to come bitch and whine about it on the rant? Move fricking back to LA please.
Posted by Jellyham
Member since Dec 2019
426 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:18 pm to
(no message)
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Arkansas fired Morris and owe him his buyout. However, there’s a clause that says he must look for work to offset that buyout. We hire him and pay Morris whatever salary he negotiates. Due to that clause, the amount of money Arkansas pays Morris is reduced by the amount Auburn is paying him.


Isn't this what led to an issue with Bert? I thought I remembered them claiming he was not seeking work in a good faith manner with the job he got with the Pats.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19156 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:56 pm to
Now we are seeing what this poster was really melting about.

Why make yourself look so ignorant just so you can say you hate us?

This is sad.
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter