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re: Are we witnessing the end of college football as we know it?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:29 am to AG87
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:29 am to AG87
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What makes college football the greatest sport?
Tradition, Loyalty, Culture....
What are we seeing today?
Coaches (many) and players (few) making generational money lacking the above.
The horse has left the barn but are there ways to control it?
yes. The fans are leaving in droves. Terrible sport.
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:30 am to AG87
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What makes college football the greatest sport? Tradition, Loyalty, Culture.... What are we seeing today? Coaches (many) and players (few) making generational money lacking the above. The horse has left the barn but are there ways to control it?
Waaaaah! It's better than ever. The Blue Bloods can no longer stack talent with under the table money. And many kids won't wait to play anymore at those schools. The crowds at games and the TV ratings tell all you need to know. Ask fans of Indiana, Vandy and other previously downtrodden programs how they like the new paradigm.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:35 am to armtackledawg
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At least in the SEC, CFB has never been more compelling. There are no dominant teams, and almost no gimmies. Even Arkansas, having lost its coach, is competitive.
You are more caught up in the drama and side show than you are the football itself.
I consider myself lucky to have lived and watched the game when the football itself was great and the main attraction.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:35 am to koreandawg
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yes. The fans are leaving in droves. Terrible sport.
That's not how it happens. People don't often just overnight stop watching and having an interest in things.
It's a slow decline.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:37 am to TideSaint
Its already fk'd.
I mean Indiana and Ole Miss in the top 10 due to NIL and xfer portal.
I mean Indiana and Ole Miss in the top 10 due to NIL and xfer portal.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 11:22 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:38 am to AG87
It died after 2019.
COVID year we all agree was a sham season, then NIL/portal era started. It doesn't feel the same anymore.
Orgeron may have made a deal with the devil and sacrificed the sport.
COVID year we all agree was a sham season, then NIL/portal era started. It doesn't feel the same anymore.
Orgeron may have made a deal with the devil and sacrificed the sport.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:39 am to jangalang
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Saban is still working lil bro.
Who is he coaching?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:39 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Portal is the problem.
One free transfer.
Then, if the coach leaves, open the portal.
Other than that, you have to sit a year in order to transfer.
NO free transfers unless head coach leaves. And start signing kids to NIL contracts that require them to remain at the university they're at when signing them or else contract is void and clawbacks happen.
The portal is fricking terrible. Kids shouldn't be jumping around this much. They wanted to be paid and treated like pros. Pros sign contracts and can't jump around every year if they want to.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:40 am to Go Go Gata
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Its already fk'd. I mean Indiana and Ole Miss in the top due to NIL and xfer portal.
Give me a break, Flori-duh. You forgot to mention a lot better coaching than Florida and many other schools have.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:45 am to CatfishJohn
If they sign contracts they are employees and can bargain collectively. It would be great to avoid this like the plague if possible.
If you make them sacrifice playing time for transfers it doesn't limit their ability to transfer, but it does start limiting their ability to collect checks.
You think OhioSt would pay Caleb Downs $2m to ride the pine for a year?
I know this is a bad example since Downs left after his coach retired, but still. Teams aren't going to be dropping bags on these players to transfer if they lose eligibility. It fixes the problem and avoids collective bargaining.
If you make them sacrifice playing time for transfers it doesn't limit their ability to transfer, but it does start limiting their ability to collect checks.
You think OhioSt would pay Caleb Downs $2m to ride the pine for a year?
I know this is a bad example since Downs left after his coach retired, but still. Teams aren't going to be dropping bags on these players to transfer if they lose eligibility. It fixes the problem and avoids collective bargaining.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:50 am to Hback
I am glad to see that. That may be the most encouraging thing I see today! If you are a fan of American football you have definitely melted into the American melting pot.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:53 am to AG87
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What makes college football the greatest sport?
Tradition, Loyalty, Culture....
What are we seeing today?
Coaches (many) and players (few) making generational money lacking the above.
The horse has left the barn but are there ways to control it?
The past had the same top teams and they were able to get away with paying players. Missouri is now able to do the same. Look at where the team has done the last 2 years and this year is looking good.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:57 am to JustGetItRight
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Unless Congress intervenes, the sport will largely be dead in 20 years. The current cost is unsustainable for all but a handful of programsin the long term.
Found the Democrat here lol, party of the big government, please intervene big daddy government ewwww
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:59 am to AG87
Yes, if you mean the end of cheating arse blue-bloods paying players under the table with slaps on the wrist from the greedy NCAA, while all the other sucker programs follow the rules & take a backseat the those programs. Now all programs can pay players & it is legal. Advantage gone! So, if you mean the new CFB landscape is more fair & balanced, yes.
The days of Miami, OU, LSU, etc. doing what they did to buy recruits, the strip clubs, call girls, cars, paying off families all under the table, all seems to be a thing of the past. I personally love hearing the whiny arse 'traditional big boy programs' whining like bitches & longing for the good ol' days. It is frickN hilarious!
The days of Miami, OU, LSU, etc. doing what they did to buy recruits, the strip clubs, call girls, cars, paying off families all under the table, all seems to be a thing of the past. I personally love hearing the whiny arse 'traditional big boy programs' whining like bitches & longing for the good ol' days. It is frickN hilarious!
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:03 am to AG87
I’ve always been a much bigger college football fan, than NFL. Because I felt like the boys played harder, they played with school pride, and lived the game.
I think college football peaked about 10-15 years ago , started to go down and after COVID has absolutely tanked.
I think targeting calls/rules have taken away from the aggressiveness of the game.
Used to a receiver went across the middle and took a shot the next time, he had that in the back of his mind. People were afraid to go across the middle.
NIL and transfer portal have completely killed the “loyalty” playing for the “love of the game and competition”.
It’s just hired mercenaries, similar to Pros now.
I’ve all but lost interest. And all of these things have contributed.
I think college football peaked about 10-15 years ago , started to go down and after COVID has absolutely tanked.
I think targeting calls/rules have taken away from the aggressiveness of the game.
Used to a receiver went across the middle and took a shot the next time, he had that in the back of his mind. People were afraid to go across the middle.
NIL and transfer portal have completely killed the “loyalty” playing for the “love of the game and competition”.
It’s just hired mercenaries, similar to Pros now.
I’ve all but lost interest. And all of these things have contributed.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:04 am to AG87
NIL caps?
But yeah, its over from the old school perspective. Just glad I got to experience it when it was that, rather than essentially professional sports at this point.
Just view it as professional sports, see that talent is more distributed across high level teams (lets say the top 40 teams/give or take), and that we may not see those incredibly dominant teams of yesterday run the table.
While it was incredible to see Nick Saban have an unparalled run, its more fun for absolute chaos. NIL provides a better chance of that.
But yeah, its over from the old school perspective. Just glad I got to experience it when it was that, rather than essentially professional sports at this point.
Just view it as professional sports, see that talent is more distributed across high level teams (lets say the top 40 teams/give or take), and that we may not see those incredibly dominant teams of yesterday run the table.
While it was incredible to see Nick Saban have an unparalled run, its more fun for absolute chaos. NIL provides a better chance of that.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:16 am to TideSaint
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Who is he coaching?
Who am I coaching? You asked if I wanted to work til I was 80.
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Saban, who told Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne that the job was "getting more and more difficult" and that the two sides were going to have to assess the situation on a "year-to-year basis" after the 2022 season, expressed that the vibrant nature of college football's transfer portal and NIL dealings were a primary part of his decision to step down.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:32 am to armtackledawg
Think about this - when is the last time you saw a player academically ineligible? We hear some of these players talk and you think to yourself "how the heck are they in college?". They get paid and don't have to attend classes any longer. They gure people for it. They need to just stop acting like the education (for most but not all) matters!
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:48 am to YieldDawg
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but I love State football
Masochistic behavior.
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