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re: Apparently we have free agency in college football starting 10/15/18
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:48 pm to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:48 pm to DingLeeBerry
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Seems like it has the potential to be. If I'm at Bama and can't break the starting lineup I could transfer 80 miles away to State without restriction, where it would have been prohibited previously. Seems like that would be a much easier decision to make than whether to transfer to a different part of the country.
To the program he is leaving it is a loss. But if he goes from Alabama to MState it really is not that big of a deal. I mean, Alabama will have to face the kid, but in the greater scheme of things, it changes very little. If a kid wanted to transfer he could do that and he still can. The only difference is where he goes. It's not like we are going to see "free agency" as was portrayed in the OP.
I just don't see it making that big of a difference.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:49 pm to Paul B Ammer
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Players will get tired of being on the end of double digit losing streaks and will transfer. LSU look to your DBs! They will be in different uniforms next year.
But they could do that now! If they are so tired of it they could transfer now.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:50 pm to jimdog
It may blow up the game, but overdue. Head coaches have always had entirely too much power with respect to the future of these your people when the university's only commitment to them is a annual scholarship agreement renewable on the whim of a handful of people.
Things change including the mind of a 17 or 18 year old who made a decision based on a pie in the sky marketing pitch of a coach that may or may not be there when he graduates or even when he arrives on campus for that matter.
Things change including the mind of a 17 or 18 year old who made a decision based on a pie in the sky marketing pitch of a coach that may or may not be there when he graduates or even when he arrives on campus for that matter.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 2:51 pm to Irons Puppet
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Wait until a coach loses his job because a pampered superstar player gets mad and leaves the program. Discipline will be the first casualty of this rule.
If that were to happen, then it already has happened. this does not make it any tougher or any easier to transfer. It merely says they can go anywhere. They will still have to sit a year just like they do now.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 3:11 pm to DawgsLife
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If they are so tired of it they could transfer now
I don't think you fully comprehend the dynamics of having to sit out a year. The impetus is not on the player. In fact people are too myopic in this regard. The coach of the gaining team is much much less likely to extend a scholarship to a player who do nothing but occupy his bench for a year.
Doing away with the restriction of having to sit out a year and the ability to come in and start immediately will cause multiple coaches to extend offers. And with multiple offers in hand a player is much more likely to leave his current program.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 3:49 pm to jimdog
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Also the schools I suppose can now grant scholarships on a year by year basis.
Schools already do this...don't think that kids who aren't seeing the field aren't encouraged to find a landing spot somewhere else. I'm sure most do without causing an uproar, but a coach doesn't have to extend a scholarship past one year anyway.
If coaches don't have restrictions placed on them as to where they can go, then players shouldn't either. I'm sure the SEC will step in and make their rules a bit more tight; maybe not. Sitting out for a year is a huge disincentive to transfer, and as someone else said, a lot of coaches aren't going to want to spend a scholarship on someone if they lose use of that scholly for a year unless the guy is really going to help their team out.
Basketball has tons of transfers, and it's good and bad (mostly bad for non P-5 + Big East), but the product is still a lot of fun to watch and if there's a way to make the process of going to school where you want to go to school easier on the student-athlete, I'm all for it.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:02 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Teams like Bama with 5 star players sitting on the bench have most to lose.
At first. Then it will start to affect everyone. That's when the shitstorm will truly start. Can't wait to see how this goes.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:21 pm to jimdog
This just in:
"Nick Saban hires 20-30 'support personnel' beginning in October for 'scouting purposes.'"
"We just tryin' to get better, a'ight," says a grinning Saban.
"Nick Saban hires 20-30 'support personnel' beginning in October for 'scouting purposes.'"
"We just tryin' to get better, a'ight," says a grinning Saban.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:22 pm to Paul B Ammer
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Actually, shitbrick programs that have inept head coaches and lengthy losing streaks to their rivals have the most to lose.
Intelligent response from an obviously insecureU dickhead.
Thanks for adding your input.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:23 pm to jimdog
quote:this is quite a paragraph
Might even make the game "whiter" and favor schools like Wisky and Iowa of the big Ten and even the academic institutions. Where guys go to be actual students and stick to their academic route. Under stand I know little of the actual details and this is an NCAA action. Don't get me wrong, many black kids are solid as well. And the actual rules may not be as fluid.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:28 pm to ColoBama
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At first. Then it will start to affect everyone. That's when the shitstorm will truly start. Can't wait to see how this goes.
Yes....I agree.
Also with the four game redshirt rule this all may be a wash.
Maybe it’s just giving the players more autonomy which is good.
I do know there was talk of transferring without sitting a year. That would have been disastrous!
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:34 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:A rare agreement here, only the more elite programs shouldn't be as affected as the lesser teams with just a few blue chippers....for example, an Alabama can lose a couple of "hosses" and still be a contender, while a middle-of-the-road team could be decimated by it.
Wait until a coach loses his job because a pampered superstar player gets mad and leaves the program. Discipline will be the first casualty of this rule.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 4:51 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Intelligent response from an obvious InsecureU dickhead
Somebody is triggered. I don't know what could have caused it. Could it be
1. Reference to a certain lengthy losing streak.
2. Mentioning a certain inept head coach who can't keep recruits from leaving the state.
3. Losing your players to the best coach, recruiter, and program in the country.
Which one has you so hot under the collar?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:18 pm to Paul B Ammer
4. InsecureU dickhead with a response that brings nothing to the table.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:23 pm to coachcrisp
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an Alabama can lose a couple of "hosses" and still be a contender, while a middle-of-the-road team could be decimated by it.
Agree Coach....I was thinking the other way with so many 5stars on the bench.
I’m thinking with the change in the redshirt rule and if you still have to sit a year....this is no big deal?
Only difference is a kid can go to any school he chooses.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:23 pm to DawgsLife
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Well, not totally.
The Division I Council did warn that conferences can still place limitations “that are more restrictive than the national rule.”
LINK
Conferences can choose to be more restrictive. It's still a wait and see thing.
This seems to be getting glanced over. The new rule does not prevent the SEC doing what it is now unless we are not getting the full text. It may provide a better stand for the appeal to the NCAA but each conference can still block or as they say be more restrictive in the end.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:24 pm to Rohan Gravy
4. All of the above
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:34 pm to TideWarrior
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Conferences can choose to be more restrictive. It's still a wait and see thing.
Yes....but could that hurt recruiting?
i.e. I can go to Texas with no restrictions or go to Texas A&M or Arkansas with restrictions.
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