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re: Anyone watched Nick Saban: A Football Life?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:14 am to bamameister
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:14 am to bamameister
This guy came close..
1971 Alabama 11–1 7–0
1972 Alabama 10–2 7–1
1973 Alabama 11–1 8–0
1974. ALABAMA 11-1 6-0
1975 Alabama 11–1 6–0
1976 Alabama 9–3 5–2
1977 Alabama 11–1 7–0
1978 Alabama 11–1 6–0
1979 Alabama 12–0 6–0
1980 Alabama 10–2
1971 Alabama 11–1 7–0
1972 Alabama 10–2 7–1
1973 Alabama 11–1 8–0
1974. ALABAMA 11-1 6-0
1975 Alabama 11–1 6–0
1976 Alabama 9–3 5–2
1977 Alabama 11–1 7–0
1978 Alabama 11–1 6–0
1979 Alabama 12–0 6–0
1980 Alabama 10–2
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
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LSU is bigger than any one person and is well positioned for success in the future.
You know you're paying Ed Jimbo Fisher kind of money, right?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:15 am to bamameister
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Those numbers I listed in 14 seasons? Never has been duplicated in the history of modern-day college football. Coach Saban never came close in 5 years in BR.
Get over yourself, you ain't BAMA. Never have, never will.
You're deflecting from the question I asked.
Once again, you don't think Saban could've been better than Les Miles within the program he built?
Ms. Terry agrees with me, why do you pretend to know better?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:25 am to SidewalkTiger
Nick Saban would have been extremely successful at LSU, nobody is trying to say otherwise.
But no coach in the history of that program has or any other program has achieved the success that Saban has at Alabama.
The only other coach to ever achieve similar success? Paul Bryant! What does he have in common with Nick Saban?
ALABAMA
But no coach in the history of that program has or any other program has achieved the success that Saban has at Alabama.
The only other coach to ever achieve similar success? Paul Bryant! What does he have in common with Nick Saban?
ALABAMA
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:33 am to cmayes56
What keeps Saban from having the same success at LSU?
Take your homer hat off for a minute and think logically.
One could argue that he may have even been more successful due to having more time in the program vs restarting over in 2007.
Take your homer hat off for a minute and think logically.
One could argue that he may have even been more successful due to having more time in the program vs restarting over in 2007.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:34 am to SidewalkTiger
I'm ready for ESPN to do a 10 pt doc on Saban at Bama. Will be far better than Jordan's documentary.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:39 am to Crimsonite94
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Y’all were so close.
I'll never begrudge Saban leaving for the Dolphins. Certainly, I did not like that he left, but an NFL gig was his ultimate career goal.
Nor do I fault him from going to Alabama. Would I have enjoyed the success and consistency that Alabama has had? Sure. But, he wanted back into the SEC and that was the opportunity available to him at the time.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:47 am to SidewalkTiger
No coach in the history of LSU has ever had that kind of success..including Saban.
One doesn't need a homer hat to recognize which program has historically enjoyed more success. It's not rocket science that Alabama is a better job, a better program and affords every coach the opportunity to succeed at a high level.
Every HC since Ears Whitworth has had at least one 10 win season.. ALL OF THEM.
Alabama made a winner out of Bill Curry for gods sake. Dubose won a SEC championship, Fran had a 10 win year, Shula did as well.
I know it hurts your feelings, but Alabama is just better at Footballing.. better than any team in American history
One doesn't need a homer hat to recognize which program has historically enjoyed more success. It's not rocket science that Alabama is a better job, a better program and affords every coach the opportunity to succeed at a high level.
Every HC since Ears Whitworth has had at least one 10 win season.. ALL OF THEM.
Alabama made a winner out of Bill Curry for gods sake. Dubose won a SEC championship, Fran had a 10 win year, Shula did as well.
I know it hurts your feelings, but Alabama is just better at Footballing.. better than any team in American history
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:49 am to cmayes56
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No coach in the history of LSU has ever had that kind of success..including Saban.
One doesn't need a homer hat to recognize which program has historically enjoyed more success. It's not rocket science that Alabama is a better job, a better program and affords every coach the opportunity to succeed at a high level.
Every HC since Ears Whitworth has had at least one 10 win season.. ALL OF THEM.
Alabama made a winner out of Bill Curry for gods sake. Dubose won a SEC championship, Fran had a 10 win year, Shula did as well.
I know it hurts your feelings, but Alabama is just better at Footballing.. better than any team in American history
So you have no logical case, got it.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:51 am to cmayes56
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Alabama > LSU
There is absolutely no doubt about this. Georgia and LSU are fighting for second best.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:51 am to BamaGradinTn
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Alabama made him what he is today.
No, he made Alabama what it is today. Don’t forget there were pretty bad runs prior to his arrival.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Now, would he have had similar results at LSU? We'll never know.
This is true, I just don’t see how any rational person can look at 2005-2012 and the players on those teams and not think he would have won a few titles in those years. Hell, we were still really good even having to go against the guy most of those years. And if you get to 2012 and he’s won say 3 titles at LSU, we think he just falls off at that point?
The Bama fans you're talking about may be deluded enough to think that Alabama would have still been a power in the SEC West. Maybe we would have been, maybe not.
Every Alabama fan will admit that recruiting dominoes started to fall with Julio Jones. If Saban isn't here, maybe we don't get Julio. Then maybe we don't get Ingram. It's well known and a beloved story by Alabama fans...the story of how Ingram's mom remembered Saban from when she was dating Mark Sr. at Michigan State and how he went to her to make sure Mark Sr. went to class. When it came time for her son to decide, she remembered.
Any rational Bama fan will admit that not only maybe we don't get Julio, but maybe also LSU gets Ingram because of that relationship. And without Julio and Ingram in that class, how many more do we not get?
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:13 pm to geauxbrown
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No, he made Alabama what it is today. Don’t forget there were pretty bad runs prior to his arrival.
Yeah, and we also were one of the first, if not the first, team to win 100 games in a decade. Four other coaches won national championships at Alabama.Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:16 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Alabama didn't do shite.
Saban is a mercenary that would have great success at any program that supports him.
Yes and no.
We still had to be willing to pay him what everyone at the time told us was an ungodly sum.
And lots of programs wouldn't have told the big money boosters to keep their mouths shut and stay the hell out of the way. See Texas.
Saban went 7-6 and lost to ULM the first year. I don't remember hearing about any boosters whining.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:31 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Saban would never have stayed this long if she wasn't happy.
As the saying goes...if mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
Do I think Alabama has certain advantages over LSU historically and as a national brand? Sure I do. Maybe slight, maybe larger than that. Alabama has been one of the elite programs in the country, well, almost forever. Maybe we would have hired someone else who would have done an outstanding job. Maybe we'd have even won a national championship or two. We'll never know.
But if Saban had stayed at LSU, could he have signed Julio Jones in the 2008 class? Very possible.
Could he have signed Mark Ingram in that same class? Absolutely. And then Alabama likely would not have been in the SECCG in 2008 and won the BCSCG in 2009. It could have easily been LSU instead.
What would Saban then have done? Could he have won one national championship with them like he did at Alabama? Of course he could have.
Then, would he have been able to sign Derrick Henry in the 2013 class? Jonathan Allen? A'Shawn Robinson? Eddie Jackson? Very possibly. They had no preexisting allegiance to Alabama. Tim Williams, from right there in Baton Rouge? Of course.
If Saban had never left and instead was in the middle of year 22 at LSU, would he have won multiple national championships? If he really is the GOAT that we believe he is, then of course he would have. How many more? Just the 2 they won anyway? Probably more than that. Would he have won 6? Possible, but not a given. We'll never know.
But if Saban had stayed at LSU, could he have signed Julio Jones in the 2008 class? Very possible.
Could he have signed Mark Ingram in that same class? Absolutely. And then Alabama likely would not have been in the SECCG in 2008 and won the BCSCG in 2009. It could have easily been LSU instead.
What would Saban then have done? Could he have won one national championship with them like he did at Alabama? Of course he could have.
Then, would he have been able to sign Derrick Henry in the 2013 class? Jonathan Allen? A'Shawn Robinson? Eddie Jackson? Very possibly. They had no preexisting allegiance to Alabama. Tim Williams, from right there in Baton Rouge? Of course.
If Saban had never left and instead was in the middle of year 22 at LSU, would he have won multiple national championships? If he really is the GOAT that we believe he is, then of course he would have. How many more? Just the 2 they won anyway? Probably more than that. Would he have won 6? Possible, but not a given. We'll never know.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:58 pm to geauxbrown
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Don’t forget there were pretty bad runs prior to his arrival.
Mostly due to scholarship reductions. When Mike DuBose was hired in 1997, Alabama was still dealing with the aftermath of the Antonio Langham scandal AND was the head coach when Logan Young "bought" the services of Albert Means in 2000. Between 1995-2007, Alabama was only off probation for the years 1999-2001. Saban got there just as we were getting off of probation.
Before Saban came to Alabama, he had never had back-to-back 10-win seasons. He hasn't won fewer than 10 games in a season since 2007.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/1/21 at 12:58 pm to BamaGradinTn
Agree with everything you're saying BamaGradinTn.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 1:09 pm to DP4Tide
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not let boosters mind fark him into offering Ric rod the job
That was BOT members not boosters that were scared Saban would not make the move....Mal was instructed to offer the job to rich rod and he was smart enough to tell him "to think it over" which gave us time and also WV time to counter the offer which they did. Dr Witt and Mal wanted Saban the entire time and was willing to wait.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 1:09 pm to RollTide1987
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Before Saban came to Alabama, he had never had back-to-back 10-win seasons.
And once again, Les Miles reeled off 10 win seasons back to back to back when he took over LSU.
Saban left when LSU was right on the cusp of being capable of that.
2004 LSU likely wins 10 games without the Saban/Dolphins distraction around the bowl game.
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