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re: Anyone watched Nick Saban: A Football Life?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:51 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:51 am to SidewalkTiger
I just find it odd that the network for pro football did one of these for Saban.
Oh, wait…
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:52 am to bamameister
It was a little slower but 2004 LSU was basically 2010 Alabama.
You didn’t have a 2002, that’s really the only difference. And even then we were 6-1 and ranked 10th when Mauck got hurt
You didn’t have a 2002, that’s really the only difference. And even then we were 6-1 and ranked 10th when Mauck got hurt
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It was a little slower but 2004 LSU was basically 2010 Alabama.
So where the other LSU teams compared to the next 9 years of coach Saban at BAMA. The winning percentage in Tuscaloosa alone in 14 seasons is so different from anything the bayou ever thought about.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Meh, 1999 LSU was worse off than 2006 Alabama
And we he came here he was just Nick Saban, when he got to Alabama he was NICK SABAN. And he was NICK SABAN based on what he did at LSU.
LSU made Saban, unless you want to argue Mal Moore hired him based on what he did at the Dolphins
There's a lot of truth to this. Although not one single Alabama player was taken at any round in the NFL draft after Saban's first season, he did inherit some All-Americans that Shula recruited. Andre Smith, Antoine Caldwell, Mike Johnson, Rashad Johnson. And JPWilson was a more than serviceable QB that came very close to winning a national championship.
Now, would he have had similar results at LSU? We'll never know. One thing that happened at Alabama was that he immediately was able to purge the snakes that were holdovers in the athletic department, and the big money boosters got the message early on to stay the hell out of his way.
Yes, LSU may have made Saban what he was in 2007.
But one national championship isn't 6.
Alabama took what you guys made of him and made him into what he is today.
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:57 am to bamameister
2000 and 2001 LSU were better than 2007 and 2008 Bama.
2003/2009 plus 2004/2010 are a push.
Like I said, you didn’t have a 2002 but even that team was figuring it out when Mauck got hurt.
It’s not that different. I know that hurts your feeling though.
2003/2009 plus 2004/2010 are a push.
Like I said, you didn’t have a 2002 but even that team was figuring it out when Mauck got hurt.
It’s not that different. I know that hurts your feeling though.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:57 am to bamameister
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bamameister
This poster is one of the biggest homers on this board.
He also tried to claim that Jimbo was an elite quarterback developer, offensive mind, and head coach during the offseason.
Dude constantly has takes that aren't rooted in any logical thinking.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 10:59 am to BamaGradinTn
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Now, would he have had similar results at LSU? We'll never know.
This is true, I just don’t see how any rational person can look at 2005-2012 and the players on those teams and not think he would have won a few titles in those years. Hell, we were still really good even having to go against the guy most of those years. And if you get to 2012 and he’s won say 3 titles at LSU, we think he just falls off at that point?
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:01 am to SidewalkTiger
Any Bammer that gets on here and doesnt think CNS would have come close to the same thing at LSU is delusional.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:02 am to BamaGradinTn
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Alabama took what you guys made of him and made him into what he is today.
If you leave it up to Alabama, they would've hired RichRod or Spurrier.
Alabama didn't do shite.
Saban is a mercenary that would have great success at any program that supports him.
Alabama just happened to be in the market for a head coach at the same time Saban's relationship with the NFL was souring.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:02 am to SidewalkTiger
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Ms. Terry
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Meh, 1999 LSU was worse off than 2006 Alabama
And we he came here he was just Nick Saban, when he got to Alabama he was NICK SABAN. And he was NICK SABAN based on what he did at LSU.
LSU made Saban, unless you want to argue Mal Moore hired him based on what he did at the Dolphins
The brokenness some of you have is astounding.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:04 am to SidewalkTiger
To be fair to Alabama, I do think their history gave them an edge and made us slightly easier to rebuild. How the people and the program feels and views itself does matter, you still need to hire the right people but I don’t think you can say that stuff doesn’t matter at all.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
Yeah..Shula was a better coach than Dinardo I guess.
Especially considering those top 30 recruiting classes he signed because of NCAA sanctions.
Saban spent 5 years in BR.. he lost 16 games. Over the last 13+ years in Tuscaloosa..he's lost 17 games total.
No doubt he's a better coach, but he also has a better job.
The 2 greatest college football coaches in history have something in common.. they both coached at ALABAMA.
ALABAMA > LSU
Especially considering those top 30 recruiting classes he signed because of NCAA sanctions.
Saban spent 5 years in BR.. he lost 16 games. Over the last 13+ years in Tuscaloosa..he's lost 17 games total.
No doubt he's a better coach, but he also has a better job.
The 2 greatest college football coaches in history have something in common.. they both coached at ALABAMA.
ALABAMA > LSU
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:05 am to Draconian Sanctions
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2000 and 2001 LSU were better than 2007 and 2008 Bama.
2003/2009 plus 2004/2010 are a push.
Like I said, you didn’t have a 2002 but even that team was figuring it out when Mauck got hurt.
It’s not that different. I know that hurts your feeling though.
Coach Saban never had back to back 10 win season at LSU. Never. Not in BR, not anywhere.
Coach Saban at ALABAMA:
2008 - 12-2
2009 - 14-0
2010 - 10-3
2011 - 12-1
2012 - 13-1
2013 - 11-2
2014 - 12-2
2015 - 14-1
2016 - 14-1
2017 - 13-1
2018 - 14-1
2019 - 11-2
2020 - 13-0
Nothing like this was ever seen in BR. Nothing like this has ever been seen in modern times in the history of college football. Never has, never will again.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:07 am to bamameister
I mean I’ve already explained to you in detail why you’re wrong. I know it hurts your feelings so you won’t admit to yourself but it’s true.
Makes no difference to me though, you’re just making yourself look stupid
Makes no difference to me though, you’re just making yourself look stupid
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
Alabama was a quicker rebuild because Saban was a known entity at that point, he was a national championship winning coach and a former NFL head coach.
He also knew how to recruit the SEC footprint, Louisiana in particular.
Lot easier to get coaches, recruits, and a university to buy in from that position vs just being the former head coach of Michigan State.
He also knew how to recruit the SEC footprint, Louisiana in particular.
Lot easier to get coaches, recruits, and a university to buy in from that position vs just being the former head coach of Michigan State.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:09 am to cmayes56
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No doubt he's a better coach, but he also has a better job
What tangible asset makes it a better job for a new, incoming head coach?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I mean I’ve already explained to you in detail why you’re wrong. I know it hurts your feelings so you won’t admit to yourself but it’s true.
Makes no difference to me though, you’re just making yourself look stupid
And I told you to put the 5-year sample size up there. Go ahead, I want to make fun of you.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:11 am to bamameister
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Coach Saban never had back to back 10 win season at LSU. Never. Not in BR, not anywhere.
Les Miles did, within the program Saban was building.
You don't think Saban could've been better in those seasons than Miles?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 11:13 am to SidewalkTiger
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You don't think Saban could've been better in those seasons than Miles?
Those numbers I listed in 14 seasons? Never has been duplicated in the history of modern-day college football. Coach Saban never came close in 5 years in BR.
Get over yourself, you ain't BAMA. Never have, never will.
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