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re: Another Coach in a mandated situation says "he has no comment" Leach has until Dec 8th

Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:20 am to
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1121 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:20 am to
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Needles are scary!!!


As long as I can get the FDA to say it's okay, will you let me inject you with a needle full of something? How about it I tell you it is good for you, and absolutely necessary?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:24 am to
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I’m not sure this is the gotcha you think it is. Speaking as someone in psychiatry most doctors everywhere, especially those not in private practice, will be having a pretty rough time if they haven’t taken it. You’re also opening yourself to an endless number of potential legal disputes if you are someone in private practice or able to escape mandates otherwise, the consequences of which are currently a vast sea of unknown and could be anywhere from insignificant to back breaking. There’s no real choice. This is the issue ffs.



Why are doctors getting their families vaxed then? Are they being paid off by George Soros to kill their own families?
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16805 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:26 am to
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Polio is just about globally eradicated because of years of vaccination. We reduced viable hosts by doing so.


Because humans are the only reservoir for polio.

Covid will always be around, even if the entire world is 100% vaccinated ppl will get it and ppl will die for all of eternity because it lives in animals too.

I’m not arguing that it doesn’t help a little bit, just that it’s shitty compared to the hype and other vaccinations that came before it. That does make it less of a vaccine than its predecessors.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:27 am to
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:28 am to

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Political Talk: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK

Vaccine works like a charm.



This is what happens when you get scientific information from the PoliBoard.



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A long headline on a United Kingdom website painted an apocalyptic picture of the pandemic there, starting with this claim:

"The UK has Fallen — 81% of Covid-19 deaths are among the Vaccinated."

The article was from The Exposé, which says it was "set up due to a lack of alternatives to the lying mainstream media."

The article was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

There are two things wrong.

The claim refers to the UK, which comprises England, Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland. But it cites statistics only for Scotland.

A full reading of the statistics shows that the unvaccinated in Scotland die at a rate much higher than the fully vaccinated.

Putting the statistic in context
The article makes its claim by adding up figures in Table 18 from a Public Health Scotland report about COVID-19 deaths in Scotland from Aug. 21 to Sept. 17.

Adding the columns of numbers in the table shows 302 deaths during the period and that 243, or nearly 81%, of the people were fully or partially vaccinated.

The table itself tells a different story, however. It reports on the weekly death rates per 100,000 people during the period.

For each of the four weeks, the death rate was lowest among people who had received two doses of the vaccine.

In the final week of the period — Sept. 11-17 — the rate of death among the unvaccinated was calculated to be 8.38 per 100,000 people. That’s more than four times higher than the rate for the fully vaccinated (1.93) and higher than the rate for people who had received one dose of vaccine (4.93).

Text below the table states:

"Age-standardized mortality rates for COVID-19 deaths shown in Table 18 are lower for people who have received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine compared to individuals that are unvaccinated or have received one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. This is comparable with data published by the Office for National Statistics which showed the risk of death involving COVID-19 was consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared to one or no vaccination, as shown by the weekly age standardized mortality rates for deaths involving COVID-19."

The claim also ignores two other important points about vaccinations in Scotland that help explain why the raw number of deaths is higher among the vaccinated:

The vast majority of residents are vaccinated. Of Scotland’s population age 12 and over, 80.9% had received two vaccination doses as of Oct. 12, according to the UK Health Security Agency. Each of the other UK nations is within two percentage points of that rate. By comparison, 56% of the U.S. population was vaccinated as of Oct. 14, according to Our World in Data.

Since Scotland rolled out vaccinations, 79.5% of the COVID-19 deaths are among people age 70 and over, according to the Scotland health report.



Oops.
Posted by Hayt
Ouray, Colorado
Member since Sep 2021
1520 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:29 am to
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Are they being paid off by George Soros to kill their own families?


Of course they are

BTW what is Soros paying per post these days? I get $.75/post.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53962 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:29 am to
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F every one of you who has turned this into a political thing

You better look to your boy Joe and his woman who said they wouldn't take the vaccine and they believed it was dangerous. They said it multiple times on the record, that is......until it became politically expedient for them to do a 180 and start saying how wonderful the vaccine was and that it is the only thing that can save us.

When it was politically expedient for them to use the "rushed vaccine" to bash Trump, they did. When it became politically expedient for them to use vaccination numbers to prop up their shitty Administration, they did.

In short, frick right off with the, "Don't make this political!" horseshite. That dog don't hunt.
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:30 am to
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NEED everyone to be vaccinated and not spreading the disease


I have COVID now and got a from a fully vaccinated person. Your argument is doesn’t hold water.
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:31 am to
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When it was politically expedient for them to use the "rushed vaccine" to bash Trump, they did. When it became politically expedient for them to use vaccination numbers to prop up their shitty Administration, they did.



DING DING DING we have a winner.

It amazes me people are still too stupid to realize this.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22847 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:32 am to
I never spoke to its efficacy nor secondhand accounts of how many doctors vaccinate their immediate family. Mostly because 1) it’s not my field to speak to and 2) how could anyone possibly harness that data accurately. I simply spoke to doctors being in an untenable situation regarding personal choice that could potentially go above and beyond that facing many other professionals. Why move the goal post?
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:32 am to
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Of course they are

BTW what is Soros paying per post these days? I get $.75/post.


Damn you got a better rate than me. I am only getting 59 cents per post
Posted by Hayt
Ouray, Colorado
Member since Sep 2021
1520 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:33 am to
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Damn you got a better rate than me. I am only getting 59 cents per post


Time to renegotiate!
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:37 am to
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I never spoke to its efficacy nor secondhand accounts of how many doctors vaccinate their immediate family. Mostly because 1) it’s not my field to speak to and 2) how could anyone possibly harness that data accurately. I simply spoke to doctors being in an untenable situation regarding personal choice that could potentially go above and beyond that facing many other professionals. Why move the goal post?


I didnt move the goal posts. So either doctors are getting the vax at a higher rate because they know its safe and effective or they are getting the vax for some other fear, which you laid out so ok lets explore that. If its for the reason you state then doctors, who know better than anyone, are knowingly killing themselves and their patients and their families because they fear some retribution if they dont. So in other words my sister in law who is a physician poisoned her kids willingly because she was worried about her job. Yeah the first scenario seems much more likely
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:44 am to
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Assuming this is true (and it’s not by the way) then a vaccine is pointless or we will see endless boosters (for a vaccine that doesn’t prevent an infection) until the virus mutates into a benign form or it’s an extinction event.

I can attest from first hand knowledge that it most assuredly is true.

To the second half, again, it's about reducing effects of the virus vs prevention. That said, yes, it does feel like we're headed down a road to the annual CV19 shot to go along with our flu shots.

Either way, it is what it is.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:45 am to
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Yeah, the issue here is it's not a low number. It's a number many Drs have been trying to get out but media refuses to report on. I know.. I know... "conspiracy theories".



Doctors have differing opinions. I am not pro-vax. I'm for individual choice. I made my choice after consulting my doctor, which is what everyone should do.

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Well, so was the experiments on the Tuskegee men for 30 plus years.



Silly whataboutisms that have nothing to do with this topic doesn't help your argument.

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In fact, testimony states that we knew in DEC of 2020 that the vaccine was killing people and cause major side effects. Enough evidence that under normal rules, the vaccine would have been shut down in Jan.


This is unmitigated horseshite.

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No, we don't know the long term effects. Living does not mean healthy.


You can't tell me that there are any long term effects just as I can't tell you that there aren't. There's risk in everything. It's up to the individual to weigh those risks and make decisions for themselves.

The problem is that we have people on one side saying that folks who don't get the vax are stupid, anti-science granny killers, and we've got folks like you on the other side claiming that vaccines are killing scores of people and causing long term effects.

Both of you are two sides of the same, very retarded, coin.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50429 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:48 am to
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My point is that with the options available to every citizen now, there is no need for the government to mandate anything. Every American has had the opportunity to be vaccinated if they want to, so let everyone make their own decision and live with the consequences. Especially international air travel. I've been vaccinated, so shouldn't have to have a negative covid test to fly back into my own country.


Totally agreed.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5256 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:49 am to
If you dipshits would just get the shot we would have been out of this mess months ago. Instead you fricktards crying and bitching keeps it going. Shots are required for all kinds of employment. Hell I am not even a liberal but this shite is stupid as frick.
Posted by RedDirtSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
699 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:50 am to
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F every one of you who has turned this into a political thing and doesn't seem to understand that people who have had transplants or have autoimmune diseases or are otherwise on immunosuppressant medication NEED everyone to be vaccinated and not spreading the disease. We ARE NOT PROTECTED by getting vaccinated ourselves, because we cannot keep the immune protection.

So you give so many of us the choice between potentially catching this disease and dying, or shutting ourselves and our families up, and not being able to work to provide for ourselves?

All because of your stubborn refusal to get a vaccine?


So, screw everyone that will have adverse reactions or die from the vaccine? Mandate to protect yourself and your loved ones? This is an extremely selfish way of thinking. This line of thinking is exactly why we live in a constitutional republic.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22847 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:52 am to
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Shots are required for all kinds of employment


Name some “shots” broadly applied to the countries employers on mass.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:54 am to
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If Ole Miss pushes MSU's shite in on November 25th and the Bulldogs finish 5-7, nobody in Starkville is going to care what happens to Leach.



Here's the far more likely scenario:

- Governor Tate Reeves intervenes and blocks the mandate, because we live in a freedom-loving red state.

- State kicks the hell out of Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl because that Ole Miss karma payment comes due by the end of the year.

- Lane says peace out and takes his sideshow to Baton Rouge or South Beach

- Leach coaches ten years and retires after bringing some decent success to Starkville.
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