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re: Already talks about Arch Manning transferring from the wannabe UT program

Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:26 am to
I'm not sure ole' uncredentialed Cabral Opyio of Sportsskeeda and a psych major from the Univeristy of Nairobi is the best source.

It's pure speculation and reads like a long post from a UTx fan on here.

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snubbing him against BYU on Saturday in a game the Longhorns won comfortably
Wonder why?
UTx won comfortably, but their backup didn't really play well. Ewers' return was still undetermined. Sark absolutely wanted him to get as many live game snaps as possible as their clear #2 to Ewers.

Manning may absolutely transfer, but he didn't really camp and is 3rd on the depth chart as a true fresh at UTx. He is just as much a gamble for any other team. And, going to a competitive program is just as much a roll of the dice for him. Bama seems a bad choice. Milroe is improving and has 1-2 more years. Simpson is good and still raw and developing with two years in the system. Sayin is inbound as a top QB recruit who actually placed his skills on the line against other top recruits and faired well. Plus, his level of HS competition was quite a but stronger than Mannings.

Don't get me wrong. Arch may be the best among Mannings when it's all said and done, but there is little to place that on one other than name alone.
Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
In my boat down on the river
Member since Aug 2023
2714 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:29 am to
A young QB either has it or he doesn't and you can always see it when it's there regardless of opponent.

You guys have given me shite about Milton and i brought that on myself but never did i actually believe Milton was anything close to Hooker.

I just expected Heupel to have had him turned the corner after seeing his performance against Clemson and seeing how Heupel turned Hooker around. Well Milton is now playing like i wanted him to at the beginning of the season but Milton has never had that magic it factor. He does have an elite arm and a lot of god gifted talent though. I'm sure plenty of NFL teams will believe they can turn him into something special as well.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:31 am to
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You guys have given me shite about Milton and i brought that on myself but never did i actually believe Milton was anything close to Hooker.



For the record we are also giving you shite for relying on a reporter from Kenya on a website based in India for your source and you brought that on yourself
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4020 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:34 am to
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going to a competitive program is just as much a roll of the dice for him


His dad and grandfather wanted him to redshirt given the jump in competition & ridiculous overhype surrounding an 18 year old.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:36 am to
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young QB either has it or he doesn't, and you can always see it when it's there regardless of opponent

Disagree. If your focus is measurables, maybe. Intangibles and growth oriented learning, certainly not.

18-21 is one of the most significant periods of mental, physical, and emotional development for our society for various reasons. So, timing, opportunity, effort, and luck weigh heavily on a young person's development in pursuit of athletic achievement.

Walk-ons earn scholarships and start, 5*s falter and fail, some college near career backups make it to the NFL and do well.

Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35816 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:36 am to
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If he was truly good, Ole Miss would have done whatever it took to land him.

We didn’t, because he isn’t



This is the most Ole Miss post ive ever seen
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:37 am to
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It's common knowledge that both of his uncles and his grandfather won the starting spot the second they walked onto their respective campus and never sat behind other QBs as freshmen. Couldn't be more obvious the kid is a talentless bust





You're an idiot

Eli redshirted and then sat behind Romero Miller again his second year, became the starter his 3rd year




As well, you also make shite up about Peyton's freshman year



Pathological liar - must be Daniel


Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:40 am to
Is JH being paid to keep his word to true freshman recruits? Or win games?

If Nico was better than Milton, he would be playing.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:43 am to
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dad and grandfather wanted him to redshirt given the jump in competition & ridiculous overhype surrounding an 18 year old.

All makes really good sense. I thought it was a stupid "article" to link and attempt to justify any real "talk' starting on his potential transfer.
Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
In my boat down on the river
Member since Aug 2023
2714 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:45 am to
Look at Stetson Bennett for example.

A walk-on recruited by no one but he has that clutch factor in him that recruit ranking sites either can't or fails to measure.

Has the natural presence under center. Yeah some guys develop this later but with most young QB prospects you can see it almost immediately.

Some guys just play better when the lights are bright and the moment is big. Most people don't have it. The ability to become better in the biggest situations is rare.



This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:48 am to
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Stetson Bennett


quote:

clutch factor


Yeah, he's great at clutching a drink...

But on a serious note: really surprised how his NFL experience has gone. Hopefully he can turn it around and make a contribution.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4185 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:50 am to
Not that it means anything, but the thought of a Manning in an Oregon, Ohio State, or USC jersey is odd.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9347 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:52 am to
Yeah, Peyton was 3rd string at the beginning of the '94 season behind Colquitt & Helton. PM didn't start until later in the season due to injuries (loved Todd Helton, was one of the greatest hitters ever out of the SEC).
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:54 am to
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You're an idiot

Eli redshirted and then sat behind Romero Miller again his second year, became the starter his 3rd year




As well, you also make shite up about Peyton's freshman year



Pathological liar - must be Daniel
I guess the inclusion of " " didn't indicate the sarcasm enough...
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:58 am to
Bennett is actually the perfect example to disprove your point. He was at UGA as a walk-on. Didn't play a snap as a freshman. Transferred to JUCO when Fields committed. He was headed to be a Ragin Cajun until Fields transferred. He was offered a scholarship and returned to UGA as a backup.

Had he had the "it" factor as a true freshman, he likely would have been offered a scholly to keep him from transferring. If he had the "it" factor in JUCO as a starter, he would have been offered better jobs than a directional school in LA. His familiarity with UGA system, potential for growth, and timing, luck and opportunity gave him a shot to return to UGA and wait for his shot. He was arguably much more developed by the time he took over at UGA. But it likely wasn't something that was evident when he first stepped on campus.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:59 am to
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I don't care what these recruiting analysts say, this was a prime example of someone getting hyped up by the last name on the back of his jersey. If his named had been Smith instead of Manning, he would have been a mid-level four star recruit.


Correct. I saw him play a couple of times in HS and watched his other highlights a lot. He definitely has the feel of a low-to-mid 4* guy. Has some arm talent, but wasn't some elite type player.

I'd still take him at LSU because a low-to-mid 4* still has a chance of being a very solid player, but he isn't his uncle Peyton or something.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Milroe is a sophomore and most likely not NFL caliber so there's 2 more years behind somebody.




Sayin or whatever is coming in hot in Tuscaloosa. Kid is the real deal.

Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
704 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:03 pm to
Looks like the best part of you ran down your mamas arse and wound up as a brown stain on the mattress
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2779 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Eli redshirted and then sat behind Romero Miller again his second year, became the starter his 3rd year



I was in Bryant Denny when they played Ole Miss in Eli's second year. Miller went out of the game in the 4th quarter. As I recall Bama was up big. Eli came in and threw a 70 yard bomb down field. Everyone in the stands was like, "Jesus why isn't that guy starting?"
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9347 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
Damn man ...

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