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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:38 am to StopRobot
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:38 am to StopRobot
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It would be the same of any coach blocking a transfer with a player publicly complaining.
Such as Kirby with Turman.
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The narrative just sets up too perfectly for media.
And there it is. The media. They have to stir up controversy to get people to read their stories. Aggravating to say the least. I'm glad it's over. I suspect absolutely nobody will win out of this situation. It's a shame.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:42 am to MustangGTech
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well I guess UGA can probably use guys that cant sniff the starting spot at Bama.
If smith transferred to tech y'all would build a statue of the guy.
well I guess UGA can probably use guys that cant sniff the starting spot at Bama.
If smith transferred to tech y'all would build a statue of the guy.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:43 am to DawgsLife
Dieter FTR is currently on the pre-season 2016 Biletnikoff Award Watch List with Ridley.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:52 am to TideWarrior
Any update on when the SEC will make a decision?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:56 am to DawgsLife
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I suspect absolutely nobody will win out of this situation.
Pretty sure UGA has already won. If they can pry the kid loose, they got a key player in a position of need. If they don't, they have succeeded in making Saban look like a dick and play that card in future recruiting.
Congrats,
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:57 am to 14&Counting
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Oh I guarantee it....I am convinced Tucker and Smart had impermissible contact. I would like for the league to condition his release on UGA turning over all email, text, and other forms of communication related to this.
All Alabama has to do is let the SEC know, they think there was contact. if they see any remote evidence, they wont allow the transfer
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:03 am to crimsonsaint
quote:They need to act quick. Classes start next week and Smith has to get through admissions, enrollment/registrars, etc.
Any update on when the SEC will make a decision?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:08 am to jcolding41
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If smith transferred to tech y'all would build a statue of the guy.
Dumb post is dumb. If Smith transferred to Tech, he wouldn't have played all this out in the media and most Bama fans would thank him for his time as a ROLE player on 2 SEC title teams and a national title team. He wasn't some vital cog.
He didn't try to go to Tech though and when he didn't get what he wanted he played this out in the media in attempt to have A) the school that gave him a free education and a chance to showcase his abilities leveraged into what he wants and B) force the conference to alter the rules b/c he doesn't like them.
Bama fans' collective thoughts and responses on this situation are directly influenced by the choices that Smith has made.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:17 am to bamasgot13
I think the issue with the rule isn't that a Saban is scared of the physical talent that smith would bring to a possible opponent, its the fact that as recently as 3 months ago he had access to all the intellectual property of Bama.
It would be difficult for LSU to let diarse transfer to Bama knowing he knows our plays, formations, etc (not that most teams don't)....jmho
It would be difficult for LSU to let diarse transfer to Bama knowing he knows our plays, formations, etc (not that most teams don't)....jmho
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:25 am to bamasgot13
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He wasn't some vital cog.
Really? I've been reading from your fans thta he was going to play 75-80% of your snaps. If he was not a vital cog why did Saban not release him immediately like he did Chris Black to Missouri?
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Bama fans' collective thoughts and responses on this situation are directly influenced by the choices that Smith has made.
No they're not. Nobody said a word when Chris Black said he wanted to transfer.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:27 am to PT24-7
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ts the fact that as recently as 3 months ago he had access to all the intellectual property of Bama.
I understand this....but didn't Chris Black?
Don't misunderstand me...your argument makes more sense than most on this. But we don't play Alabama, and won't play you. No way we go to Atlanta this year.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:30 am to DawgsLife
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ts the fact that as recently as 3 months ago he had access to all the intellectual property of Bama.
Which is why coaches usually block to schools they are playing in the time frame said player has eligibility left.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:31 am to jatebe
Love how upset this has made you
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:34 am to DawgsLife
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No they're not. Nobody said a word when Chris Black said he wanted to transfer
Couple of key differences.
First, and I'm on phone so I'm not able to link it, but it has been reported am that a paperwork error is what allowed Black to transfer in conference. It's not like he had a different set of rules than Smith, but an error helped him and same error wasn't made with Smith.
Second, Black wasn't in the media about it the way smith and family have been.
Third, Black told team last year he wanted to transfer and, I think, didn play after that. Smith told Saban shortly before fall practice of his intentions.
Finally, Smith was going to go to Miami and Saban was fine with it. It's only once Smith wanted to go in conference that the issue arose.
ETA: here is the article explaining how Black got to Mizzou and situation is different than Smith's
Why was Chris black allowed but Smirh isn't
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:14 pm to bamasgot13
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First, and I'm on phone so I'm not able to link it, but it has been reported am that a paperwork error is what allowed Black to transfer in conference. It's not like he had a different set of rules than Smith, but an error helped him and same error wasn't made with Smith.
I had heard that and read it in an article...but when I mentioned it earlier in this thread, a couple of Alabama fans were adamant that he was given and immediate release and this was not the case.
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Second, Black wasn't in the media about it the way smith and family have been.
Why would he be? I mean, either his request fell through the cracks and he got what he wanted, or as some Alabama posters insist, he was given his immediate release. he had no reason to go through the media.
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Third, Black told team last year he wanted to transfer and, I think, didn play after that. Smith told Saban shortly before fall practice of his intentions.
While technically true, this had been ongoing since last November, and the relationship was damaged when Saban called Smith into his office and yelled at him for something he knew nothing about.
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Finally, Smith was going to go to Miami and Saban was fine with it.
Actually, it was Baylor, but your point stands.
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It's only once Smith wanted to go in conference that the issue arose.
And yet, Black went to Missouri. And, there might be some credence to the story of some Alabama fans are saying. This is what Alabama says happened in the Chris Black situation:
Alabama has previously defended not releasing Smith from his scholarship and contrasted his situation from that of wide receiver Chris Black, who transferred to Missouri as a graduate transfer. Black was injured during the 2015 season and the school said his scholarship wasn’t renewed.
You would think if it was a clerical error as was stated in the article, that Alabama would say that instead of saying they did not renew the scholarship of a player because he was injured.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:18 pm to bamasgot13
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ETA: here is the article explaining how Black got to Mizzou and situation is different than Smith's
Why was Chris black allowed but Smirh isn't
Yeah. I had seen this and even mentioned it to some Alabama people when they insisted it was not correct and that he was given his release immediately. I could not find any other article saying what the one you linked (And until now had believed) said.
I don't know what to believe...and truth is nobody does. It's another situation where everybody is in covering their own behind mode and we will probably never know the entire story. And....basically...what difference does it ultimately matter? Smith got his release and it's over. It's probably best for all concerned that it is over.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:26 pm to DawgsLife
I was looking for the link where the Alabama fans were insisting Chris Black got an immediate/automatic release and said the article was wrong:
No, he did not. He asked for and received a RELEASE automatically. There is no WAIVER necessary because he has met the residency requirement.
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No, he did not. He asked for and received a RELEASE automatically. There is no WAIVER necessary because he has met the residency requirement.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:34 pm to DawgsLife
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No, he did not. He asked for and received a RELEASE automatically. There is no WAIVER necessary because he has met the residency requirement.
This is incorrect. You have to fulfill a few requirements and the waiver is one of them. Black used the residency requirement to side step the degree offering requirement
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:43 pm to DawgsLife
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Such as Kirby with Turman.
Yep. Either block all transfers, block none or have the conference grant the waivers.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:39 pm to StopRobot
SEC just cleared Smith to go to UGA
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