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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:42 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:42 pm to Crowknowsbest
Yep, can transfer and is eligible immediately.
Big boost to the defense.
Big boost to the defense.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:44 pm to WG_Dawg
maybe we can get another week or so out of his threads though....
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:44 pm to Crowknowsbest
The power of whining can bypass all laws and rules apparently, this offseason taught me a lot on how to get away with things. Bitch and moan to the media or say that I had no air conditioning, valuable life lessons indeed.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:45 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Really and Im being honest, is he really gonna be that big of an asset to your defense?
Big boost to the defense.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:46 pm to bamaqna
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bypass all laws and rules apparently
What rules and laws were bypassed?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:46 pm to WG_Dawg
Good luck to the kid 
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:48 pm to NYCAuburn
Not gonna rehash this whole fiasco because Im sure you heard about it just like everyone else on the rant did baww.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:50 pm to bamaqna
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Not gonna rehash this whole fiasco because Im sure you heard about it just like everyone else on the rant did baww.
The thing is, nothing was bypassed or changed, its part of the rule that he can play at another SEC school if his old school signs off on it. its all part of the process.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:52 pm to bamaqna
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is he really gonna be that big of an asset to your defense?
I think so.
Not everyone has a roster with 5* stacked like cord wood. Malkom Parrish is a solid corner. Juwan Briscoe has loads of potential but hasn't played a ton. Aaron Davis is plucky and has made some plays but he's not going to make any All-SEC lists. And our nickel Rico McGraw has talent but again hasn't really made a mark. Even if you overlook the fact that we have a pretty alright starting group, our depth is fairly thin at DB. Even if MS doesn't come in and set the world on fire, just having another capable DB on the roster will do wonders.
Plus it's just exciting in general. How often do you get a high 4* guy ranked nationally in the top 10 at his position come to your school as a senior and can step in immediately?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:52 pm to NYCAuburn
I don't know about everybody else, but I'm just glad Maurice gets to follow his passion and pursue his Public Health degree.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:52 pm to NYCAuburn
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What rules and laws were bypassed?
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Former Alabama defensive back Maurice Smith has received a conditional waiver to SEC rules that will permit Smith to transfer to Georgia to pursue a graduate degree while having the option to complete his final year of athletic eligibility in either 2016 or 2017, with provisions dependent on the achievement of Smith’s stated academic objectives should he play in 2016, the SEC announced Friday.
“Graduate transfer rules were established with the intent to be grounded in the academic interests of the student-athlete,” SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey said in a release. “This conditional waiver permits Maurice Smith to receive financial aid to pursue his stated academic goals at the school of his choice while connecting his athletic participation directly to those goals.”
Georgia requested the SEC make an exception to two SEC bylaws for Smith, one that requires incoming transfers to have at least two years of eligibility remaining and the second that requires student-athletes that transfer from one SEC institution to another SEC institution to sit out a full academic year prior to competing.
“The standard for granting waivers has been clear and compelling evidence that there is reason for allowing an exception to SEC rules,” Sankey said. “I found, among other contributing factors, that a student-athlete who graduates in three years and exhibits a strong commitment to his or her academic future provides compelling motivation to help them achieve their goals on and off the field.
”An institution has an obligation to provide opportunities for graduate student-athletes to earn a graduate degree. Similarly, student-athletes have accountability to the universities that are providing the educational opportunities they enjoy. Maurice has clearly and passionately stated his desire for a graduate degree in Public Health. The conditions of the waiver allow him to achieve that goal and provide the institution with greater incentive to make his educational interests a priority.”
The waiver grants Smith a graduate-student exemption to SEC Bylaw 14.1.15 (Two-Year Eligibility) which requires a student-athlete to have at least two years of eligibility remaining to be eligible to receive financial aid, practice and compete. Based on the waiver, Smith will be allowed to receive financial aid and practice with the Georgia team immediately. Smith is required to enroll in his stated degree program, the Master of Public Health graduate program, as a full-time student and must earn all possible Academic Progress Rate (APR) points for each term of his enrollment. If the APR points are not earned, the university may not utilize the graduate-student exemption in football until after the 2019-20 academic year.
The waiver also grants provisional relief to SEC Bylaw 14.5.5.1 (Transferring within the Southeastern Conference) which governs intra-conference transfers. The bylaw requires a student-athlete to spend one full academic year in residence at the institution to which he/she is transferring. The conditions of the waiver state that Smith may play in 2017 as outlined by the bylaw, or he may play in 2016 contingent on completing at least nine credits of graduate level coursework in his degree program during the fall 2016 semester, and ultimately achieving his stated goal of earning a graduate degree in Public Health.
Should Smith play in 2016 and fail to complete nine hours of coursework, he will not be eligible for post-season competition. Should he fail to graduate prior to the beginning of the 2018-19 academic year, Georgia would be precluded from requesting a waiver of either the two-year eligibility requirement or the intra-conference transfer rule for a graduate transfer in football until the beginning of the 2021-22 academic year (three years) or Smith’s graduation from the graduate program, whichever comes first.
“Our SEC institutions adopted the intra-conference transfer rule in 2000 due to concerns that the transfer of current student-athletes within the conference would be viewed as unhealthy for student-athletes, the institutions and the conference alike, so this waiver is not granted lightly,” Sankey said. “The University of Alabama vigorously defended this SEC rule for good reason and has assisted this process in every way. The current rule places our coaches and administrators in untenable situations so it is time for us to address graduate transfer rules. An individual university does not possess the authority to activate that change, so adherence to these rules and the process by which exceptions are sought remain critical for every institution in the SEC.”
*** This information was acquired from a recent press release from the Southeastern Conference.
Kinda makes your argument look stupid, doesn't it?
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:52 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I'm just glad Maurice gets to follow his passion and pursue his Public Health degree.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:57 pm to TideSaint
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Kinda makes your argument look stupid, doesn't it?
Except, those "exceptions" are SOP and part of the process, so not really. Those same exceptions and others are granted in every in every case like this.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 1:58 pm to NYCAuburn
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Except, those "exceptions" are SOP and part of the process, so not really. Those same exceptions and others are granted in every in every case like this.
So the rules are bypassed in this case?
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 2:00 pm to TideSaint
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So the rules are bypassed in this case?
as part of the process, yes. If you meet certain qualifications, they give certain exceptions. It's all part of the process. if you dont meet those qualifications, they dont grant an exception.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 2:00 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:In what cases were these same exceptions granted seriously? The only thing I have heard about the graduate rule is the standard guidelines: the kid has to sit out a year then he can play.
Those same exceptions and others are granted in every in every case like this.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 2:05 pm to bamaqna
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In what cases were these same exceptions granted seriously?
The two year requirement(of the two notated in smiths case) is used all the time.
As far as the SEC school to another school case, that exception is dependent the original school. So it depends on the coach to grant that exception to the rule, but again part of the process. its not really breaking or changing a bylaw. But in a perfect example Chris black.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 8/12/16 at 2:19 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:The Chris Black situation was totally different than this one though, but more power to the kid though I just hate the way he and his family went about getting the transfer. Personally and this is just a belief its not a fact whatsoever, but I believe Kirby was in this kids ear trying to poach him from Saban the whole time. Its funny how he doesn't want anyone to transfer to their coaches old school even when its out of conference but he has no problem when its to his benefit.
But in a perfect example Chris black.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 2:34 pm to bamaqna
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The Chris Black situation was totally different than this one though
Nope, it was an "exception" because he got the waiver. He got an automatic waiver because Saban/Bama never responded in the alotted time
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but I believe Kirby was in this kids ear trying to poach him from Saban the whole time
This is against the rule and the SEC is adamant against it. All bama has to do is tell them.
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. Its funny how he doesn't want anyone to transfer to their coaches old school even when its out of conference but he has no problem when its to his benefit.
Being a grad was the key here
Posted on 8/12/16 at 3:17 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:C'mon man!..you're not that naive.
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That is because it hasn't been allowed until now.
It has been allowed for a few years now, with a brief period of a few years where it wasnt, then before that was allowed.
Nothing has changed
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. If it is allowed, teams will be looking at everyone elses team to see who they can offer if they think they can contribute.
And they wont be able to contact them at all
Do you really believe Mo Smith didn't have feelers out to Kirby and got some feedback? If word goes out that Saban would "possibly" be interested in some graduate "help", the shite's gonna hit the fan around the conference.
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