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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling

Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:34 pm to
Thanks. : :

Graduating is a great thing. Hope it's a worthwhile degree. I was mainly referring to struggling to holding a starting position and meddling family, who may have, allegedly, threatened a lawsuit. I'm not sure an NFL team would be too thrilled with dealing with that kind of folks.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:44 pm to
Is Coach Saban losing control?

Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
2680 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 2:57 am to
quote:

Is Coach Saban losing control?


Obviously. Looks like the decline is here and real.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:07 am to
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Statistically the best, among who?


The entire nation. We had the #1 secondary statistically in the nation.

However, as he pointed out, we didn't exactly play any pass happy QBs, and we lost our two best pass rushers. We are hoping to finish Top 5 in the SEC this year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:10 am to
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Still trying to find anyone giving your DBs respect. Might take awhile, hold the line.


Dude. You got aggravated with him because he asked you a question and he answered. now you asked him a question and he answered and you want to act like that?

I don't get it. Why do Alabama fans even care? You are plug and play at this point, and losing Smith won't hurt you a bit. Why all the butt hurt?
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:37 am to
I think Alabama was right all along. Shouldn't give in because someone cries to the press. Now the doors are open to SEC schools poaching players in Maurice Smith's situation.

I'd be very surprised if he transfers to GA and starts. What kind of dissension would that create if he takes a position away from someone who has been there practicing all along?
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 7:44 am
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:26 am to
Maybe the rule should be changed. But by demanding to be allowed to do this, with no justification for why an exception should be made, is not a basis for a legitimate decision.

Alabama didn't make the rule. Nick Saban didn't make the rule. The SEC made the rule, and maybe it's a bad rule and it should be changed - but as long as the rule is in place, a player should at least have to make the case why he should be granted an exception.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:28 am to
If it was a rule Saban couldn't possibly bend on, how did he bend on the rule? He just proved he can do whatever he wants.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:29 am to
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Now the doors are open to SEC schools poaching players in Maurice Smith's situation.


Yep, and guess which one is most likely to get the best ones.

Hope the SEC fricks up and grants the waiver.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:33 am
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1671 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:30 am to


Little Nicky Saban is such a little bitch.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:36 am to
Yeah, they'll all be screaming to change the rule back in a year or two.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:36 am to
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If it was a rule Saban couldn't possibly bend on, how did he bend on the rule? He just proved he can do whatever he wants.


Perhaps he finally realized that he was the one most likely to benefit the most long term from the fricking mess.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:44 am to
For the third straight year, Bama will have a grad transfer as the "go to guy" on third down passing situations this season. Does the rest of the SEC really want them to be able to pick up the best of those from the best conference?
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 8:47 am
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 9:53 am to
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For the third straight year, Bama will have a grad transfer as the "go to guy" on third down passing situations this season. Does the rest of the SEC really want them to be able to pick up the best of those from the best conference?


You are asking some of these people to think beyond their capacity. Many of them operate on a logical level of "Saban? BOOOOOOO!"
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:09 am to
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I think Alabama was right all along.


It's not a matter of right or wrong. That is a matter of opinion. It was a matter of being within the rules....which Saban was. He did nothing wrong by denying the transfer, therefore should not be criticized for it. It's his option. if people don't like the rule, they should fight to have it changed.

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Now the doors are open to SEC schools poaching players in Maurice Smith's situation.


From year to year there are very few players that meet the requirements that want to transfer. You won't see it happen much at all. I mean, the rest of the country already had that option. And, SEC schools had the option of doing it with players from other conferences, already. We saw MAYBE 2-3 a year come into the SEC a year, if that many.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:10 am to
quote:

For the third straight year, Bama will have a grad transfer as the "go to guy" on third down passing situations this season. Does the rest of the SEC really want them to be able to pick up the best of those from the best conference?


Sure, go ahead. You think there are many in the conference that Alabama didn't get the first time around?

Out of curiosity, who are the three you are talking about?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:16 am to
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Maybe the rule should be changed. But by demanding to be allowed to do this, with no justification for why an exception should be made, is not a basis for a legitimate decision.



It's not an exception to the rule. It has always been an option for the school to allow a transfer. That is the rule.

He can:
1. Sit out a year and go to another SEC school
2. Go to another school outside the SEC and play immediately
3. Get a waiver from his current SEC team and play immediately at another SEC school.

He is not getting a waiver of the rule. His proble is that Saban would not grant the waiver so he could play immediately.
AGAIN..I have no problem with Nick Saban. It is his right to refuse as per the rule. But you guys are acting like the kid was way off base for asking for the waiver. Chris Black asked for the same waiver, and because Alabama did not answer it in time got a waiver automatically.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:16 am to
Saban's version of Br'er Rabbit.

"Please don't make me fling this rabbit in dat brier patch. Oh, please don't. Please don't!"
Posted by Uncle Luke
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
439 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:17 am to
In my opinion, when a player wants to leave, show him the door. If he's unhappy and doesnt want to be there he will only hurt the team. However, by giving in to this player and his momma because they went public and made a lot of noise, i think this situation just opened up problems for all the conference schools. I dont think players should be jumping around from school to school within the SEC. Just my opinion.
Posted by ALA2262
Cumming, GA
Member since Jun 2016
1683 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 10:21 am to
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Chris Black asked for the same waiver, and because Alabama did not answer it in time got a waiver automatically.


No, he did not. He asked for and received a RELEASE automatically. There is no WAIVER necessary because he has met the residency requirement.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 10:23 am
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