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re: Adding 1965 to Arkansas' national championship years - that's 5 legit Natties for the Hogs

Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9829 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:33 pm to
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In 1964, Alabama claimed to be national champions because they were undefeated in the regular season, despite losing in their bowl game.


Alabama claims the 1964 national championship because it was awarded to them by the AP under the system in place at the time. Same for 1965. Being undefeated has nothing to do with it, or Alabama would have claimed 1966 as well.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5279 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:46 pm to
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In 1964 teams were awarded the national championship almost a full month before the bowl games were played. Alabama went into their bowl game as the national champions.



I hate Alabama, but this is legit. It is how it worked at the time regardless of revisionist history.

However….. Several of the earlier Alabama championships that were retroactively claimed and Alabama recognizes as legit are total BS.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36399 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 1:54 pm to
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I hate Alabama, but this is legit. It is how it worked at the time regardless of revisionist history.

However….. Several of the earlier Alabama championships that were retroactively claimed and Alabama recognizes as legit are total BS.


1941 is a bullshite claim.

I'd be fine with not claiming the ones prior to 1936. Notre Dame is actually the one that started doing that and it goes back to the kind of national rivalry between Alabama and Notre Dame in the 60's and 70's and the highlights national politics put on things.

Notre Dame wouldn't even play in bowl games until they started making them count for National Championships.

They were basically the ones that set the standard and then Alabama just started claiming them in the same way. Except 1941. Notre Dame doesn't claim anything other than AP and Coaches polls post 1936.

Posted by Chill Pill
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Member since May 2009
625 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 2:15 pm to
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so that makes it 1909, 1964, 1965, 1968, and 1977



Five Natties Baby


Fact checking Hogs fans is like fact checking certain politicians ...

List of All Football Nat'l Champs



Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
5245 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:16 pm to
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Do you really want to make up fake championships like Alabama? It's unbecoming
aggy did when they joined the SEC, now the hogs want to impress everyone just like aggy did.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 7:35 pm
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20309 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:19 pm to
And the link rightly shows LSU 1908. Hang the banner, AD!
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:34 pm to
64 and 77.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:36 pm to
64 and 77.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36399 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:40 pm to
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64 and 77.


Arkansas has 0 legitimate national championships.

Bowl games were exhibition games in 1964 no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise. Alabama was named National Champions nearly a month before the bowl games.

You finished #3 in both the AP and Coaches in 1977.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36399 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:41 pm to
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And the link rightly shows LSU 1908. Hang the banner, AD!


I would recognize 1908 as legit for LSU if they claimed it.

It's not really a strong claim, but it fits under the Notre Dame standard.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49746 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:47 pm to
define legit
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:47 pm to
Tell that to Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson.

Arkansas should go ahead and claim 77.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36399 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:50 pm to
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Tell that to Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson.

Arkansas should go ahead and claim 77.


It's as valid as men who claim to be women. Nothing than more than a fantasy for those who can't deal with the reality they've been handed because they watch too much Alabama porn and have unrealistic expectations.

Posted by UGADawg1988
Member since Apr 2013
237 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:22 pm to
You are blaming Alabama for their 1964 championship, but that's how it was awarded back then, before the bowl games. If Arkansas wants to claim 1964 then they should do that.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide62
Member since Aug 2024
4057 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:33 pm to
Yes hogs get a piece as they do in 77 Bama 45 66 75 77 added
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2996 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
Your 1965 claim is bogus.

A 7-3 LSU team took care of Arkansas butt in the 1/1/66 Cotton Bowl. One of my favorite LSU games of all-time! Broke a 22 game Arkansas winning streak. Broyles was despondent as Arkansas blew their chance at a national championship. LSU was a huge underdog in the game.

p.s. A little story about that game. As the Tigers were leaving the hotel to go to the game, some big mouth Arkansas fan yelled out "look, they are actually going to show up!". It pissed Charlie McClendon off and was used to fire up the Tigers.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26691 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 5:26 pm to
Arkansas QB got hurt in the second quarter and didn't return.

LSU jump up 14-0 and that was enough to win.

It was hard on Broyles but the 69 Texas game broke his spirit.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2125 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:28 pm to
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It's kind of dumb to count an exhibition game based on the premise of not understanding history of the game. And yet for some reason it's all anyone ever does.


Some of these people call themselves college football fans….know the history people.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17364 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:35 pm to
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quote:
Do you really want to make up fake championships like Alabama?



quote:
LSU Fan


Uh...


What fake championships do we claim? We don't even claim 1908, although I do personally.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6287 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 6:40 pm to
You self claim a "title" in basketball.
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