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re: 9 game SEC schedule

Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 8:58 pm to
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At first glance, seems quite reasonable. However, will not a 9-game schedule affect all the future scheduling that power 5 schools have been conducting with each other? If I'm correct, I think I remember something along that line.




And there in lays the rub. With a 9 game schedule you are giving up a home game every other year. You also only have 3 OOC games to work with.

There is a reason why the PAC 12 and Big 10, after going to a 9 game conference and loudly proclaiming they would never sully themselves by playing an FCS team again (I can see why the Big 10 was keen on this because they've had their clock cleaned of late against FCS teams) have quietly let that decision fade and allowed schools to schedule FCS teams.

You want to have at least 7 games at home each year. Every other year you must have all 3 OOC games at home to meet that. That gives you zero room for neutral site games or for when a G5 opponent bends you over the barrel and announces "we'd sure appreciate a true home and away with you".

If you have a dedicated OOC opponent, which several SEC teams do, then you are well and truly hosed. Now you have 2 games a year to work with. That is it. Kiss those early season Georgia/South Carolina vs ACC teams good bye.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:01 pm to
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Any fan who is for a 9 game SEC schedule is just a low IQ inbred.


FIFY.

Until other conferences are equal to the SEC anyone who supports this idea is a fricking moron. No team that has ever played a 9 game conference schedule has ever won a NC. Ever.

Who the frick cares if the pussies in the PAC schedule a 9th game against Oregon State, or the B1G schedules an extra game against Purdue or Indiana?

It takes a pretty serious fricking inbred to think a 9th game in the best conference in the country, plus losing a goddamn home game every other year is a good idea.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25188 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:05 pm to
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It takes a pretty serious fricking inbred to think a 9th game in the best conference in the country, plus losing a goddamn home game every other year is a good idea.


A bit more forcefully stated then what I said... but this. Going to a 9 game schedule is cutting your own throat and for teams with a dedicated P5 opponent you might as well start heaping dirt on their ability to schedule OOC games.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4539 posts
Posted on 6/26/19 at 9:27 pm to
Eh maybe so. If you want to play conference teams more than once every 6 years you have to do it though.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25188 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 6:53 am to
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Eh maybe so. If you want to play conference teams more than once every 6 years you have to do it though.




Do away with cross division rivals. Presto changeo the problem is fixed. Play two teams from the other division and you play every team in the conference at least once every 4 years. No scheduling head aches and everyone gets to see everyone else's stadium at least once every 8 years.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4539 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:59 am to
Good luck selling that to Alabama-Tennessee and Auburn-Georgia.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:05 pm to
Problems...4 SEC East teams have an in-state rivalry with an ACC opponent which would count as our 10th game.

Along with that, the years those teams have 4 "H" games, they would need to HOST the ACC opponent to have at least 5 home games...which, to do this, would require the ACC team's schedule to be adjusted.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:09 pm to
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If you want to play conference teams more than once every 6 years you have to do it though.

I think there’s a difference of opinion between SEC fanbases on how important this is. For UGA, that’s pretty far down the list given our other scheduling considerations.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:09 pm to
There would be no difference in how to choose the SECCG by going to 9 games as is.

HOWEVER, your 5 perm/4 rotating (or any version of that) would require more tie-breakers to compare each of the 14 teams with each other in order to rank them. This is NECESSARY for a division-less conference.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:17 pm to
No...16 will be 4×4 pods
This post was edited on 6/28/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/27/19 at 12:29 pm to
2 - SEC WILL NOT split same-state schools into diff. divisions; therefore Miss./MSU, Ala./Aub., & Tn./Vandy will always be paired.


3 - WHY would those 4 teams give up our in-state rivals? The problem is when we have 4H SEC games, we would need to host our rival to give us at least 5H games.....but to do this could impact the ACC team's schedule.


4 - A non-division conference will require tie-breakers to compare all 14 teams to each other for rankings due to lack of common opponents.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32628 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 4:09 am to
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You want Florida or LSU more? I feel like AU fans have bitched and bitched about losing that rivalry. Can't just have all big 6 against big 6. Needs to be even to a certain extent.
How about we don’t do your dumbass plan or you can come up with a better one?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25592 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 5:18 am to
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Good news is Bama is dropping out of that and scheduling big time schools like Texas and ND for home and homes.


That is great news.

Some Bama fans think no opponent wants to play Bama early and have them nuke their season?

Who knew... that all they wanted was a crack at Bama with home field advantage one year?

All of these years... it seems like Bama was trying to avoid that.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:21 am to
"Clean Old Fashioned Hate" (UGA/GT) is the last game of the season @ Thanksgiving.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54630 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:48 pm to
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So schedule the P5 OOC later in the season instead of your cupcake bye prior to the IB.


Do you really think any major network would let the game before their money game be anything bro detract ratings form the main event?

Alabama is not going to play Oho State the week before the Iron Bowl OR the OSU vs UM game.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 4:03 pm to
"9 game SEC schedule by Arksulli
quote:
Eh maybe so. If you want to play conference teams more than once every 6 years you have to do it though.



Do away with cross division rivals. Presto changeo the problem is fixed. Play two teams from the other division and you play every team in the conference at least once every 4 years. No scheduling head aches and everyone gets to see everyone else's stadium at least once every 8 years."

No "presto changeo"...unless your trick was making TSIO & DSOR vanish. & sorry, but they WON'T be played as non-conf. either.
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Kidcube1
Member since Oct 2017
393 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 4:57 pm to
ACC teams don’t have to adjust their schedule

Let Georgia be the home team odd years instead of even years that way every team in east division would get 5 home and 4 away games during odd years
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 5:20 pm to
I could live with about 75% of your scheduling but you didn’t quite split the games evenly due to rates of difficulty. Some teams in your scheduling scenario still get screwed by being forced to play tougher teams than other conference members. I wasn’t the SEC Office in Birmingham to try their absolute best to swap out cross divisional games fairly and evenly. Try to give all 14 members an equal shot at Atlanta. What’s wrong with that?
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4539 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 6:13 pm to
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How about we don’t do your dumbass plan or you can come up with a better one?


Here's a plan, let's meet at Sonic.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7274 posts
Posted on 6/30/19 at 9:40 pm to
ACC would have to change their schedule due to factoring in ND to their conference.

So whose schedule are you changing? UGA already had DSOR screwed up playing 2 yrs. in Aub. & now the date issue.
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