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re: 2019 WSJ Academic Rankings - SEC Schools

Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:32 am to
Posted by Atxgump
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:32 am to
I no can weed em, u no, coz 2 manee numburs an ledderz
Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:57 am to
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People who brag about these rankings probably don't have to live with Mississippi States's ranking
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:15 am to
Florida obviously benefits from having the stranglehold on their state for academic achievement. UGA's main competition is GT, a very esteemed institution.

Texas is kind of a different animal just because of the scale, but there are a number of high end options in the republic.

I do find it interesting though that none of Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, or State have done anything to differentiate themselves and rise above so to speak. I know the talent pool for high achieving students is limited, but you'd think there would be enough for one of the main schools in each state to have positioned themselves as a top 150 school.

Posted by germandawg
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:20 am to
I, for one, think the University of Georgia should strive to be a university that the football team can be proud of....
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:33 am to
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I've talked to several vets in my area regarding their opinion of the vet schools in our region, and they've told me that the interns coming out of Miss. St. were the most advanced of any of the vet schools in this part of the country (smaller classes, more hands-on training, etc.).
I post this to say that there are too many aspects and particular needs to be able to rate schools for what an individual wants/needs.


EXACTLY and I know friends who are Engineers who are LSU and A&M grads who brag about how well prepared MSU engineers are when they are hired.

The Wall St. Journal is more in tune as to how someone with a degree from certain colleges would do on a national/international level

As the above poster mentioned about the MSU vet school they are putting out top notch Vets, not sure how in demand Vets are in New York City or Chicago, but in the southeast they are always in demand not only for pets but also cattle, horses, pigs, etc.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:37 am to
Holy shite. I thought Mizzou was actually supposed to be good.
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:34 am to
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First off, 35% of kids that attend Auburn are from out of state compared to less than 10% of kids that attend Georgia being from out of state. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, but Georgia has one of the lowest out-of-state attendance percentages of any major public school in Americ

I'm surprised to see Alabama ranked where it is. Only 40% of their 2018 class was from Alabama.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 8:44 am to
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I do find it interesting though that none of Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, or State have done anything to differentiate themselves and rise above so to speak. I know the talent pool for high achieving students is limited, but you'd think there would be enough for one of the main schools in each state to have positioned themselves as a top 150 school.


Because of the South's relatively small population size.

Alabama's top students already have several very high end institutions to go to if they want to still stay in the South. Vanderbilt already cemented itself as the "Harvard of the South" a long time ago. No one is going to try and challenge that.

Compare the South to, say, the Northeast. New York and Pennsylvania alone have a combined 32 million residents; the four most populous states (not including Florida & Texas, which you already mentioned) combined are still 5 million behind them, and that hasn't thrown New Jersey into the mix - which would be just behind Georgia as the most populous non-Florida/Texas state in the region.

There are more high-end institutions in the West and Northeast simply because the population is much higher, and therefor there are more kids that qualify. Couple that with the old Ivy League designation, and there you go.

Alabama's population is 4th out of the SE (or 6th if you include Texas and Florida). Hard to build up a Vanderbilt-level institution when those kids could, you know...

Just go to Vandy.
Posted by DirtyDouglas
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:01 am to
Our company (large healthcare consulting firm) uses Vanderbilt as a primary school for recruitment. 75% of the kids from there have some sort of liberal arts bs degree that don't set them up for success and require a lot of hand holding (add to the fact that they come out as entitled privileged as hell). Now, a lot of them ultimately become successful, but I'll say the classes I took at South Carolina have helped me surpass many of them in my career and gave me a better leg up when I started. Small sample size obviously, but just a point that your degree and school are what you make of it....
Posted by TailbackU
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:40 am to
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75% of the kids from there have some sort of liberal arts bs degree that don't set them up for success and require a lot of hand holding


Hell that's every school in America… the snowflakes require some reentry coaching when they get into the real world. That's for damn sure.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:58 am to
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UGA's main competition is GT, a very esteemed institution.


I am pretty sure Emory is AAU as well and they have around 7 billion endowment. Their sports are pretty good for a DIII school.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:06 pm to
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I am pretty sure Emory is AAU as well and they have around 7 billion endowment. Their sports are pretty good for a DIII school.
Yeah but our undergrad enrollment is super small
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:14 pm to
You seem pretty cool for an Emory student. My cousin went there and is pretty much an arse.



As to your point, most good schools (outside of the service academies) have disproportionate grad to undergrad populations. I thought Emory was about the same size as Vanderbilt but it was more evenly split between grad and undergrad.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 12:27 pm to


And yeah but I mean, when we're talking 28,000 undergrads at UGA and 15,000 at GT, Emory's 7,000 (with 20% international) isn't a whole lot to write home about, haha
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Honestly, if Auburn is taking students with significantly poorer academic records and still pumping out higher average salaries than UGA, what the heck does that say about the quality of education at the two places?


Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Holy shite. I thought Mizzou was actually supposed to be good.


That place is a dumpster fire right now. They let the nutjob libs completely take over the place.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:37 pm to
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That place is a dumpster fire right now. They let the nutjob libs completely take over the place.




We'd better stand up and not let that happen to the rest of the country. But the libs are chipping away.
Posted by jawjaTiger
Brunswick, GA
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:55 pm to
The South isn't "small".

The South has 114,555,744 individuals.

That is almost 40% of all inhabitants in America's "Four Regions".

What world do you live in?
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:42 pm to
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The South isn't "small".

The South has 114,555,744 individuals.

That is almost 40% of all inhabitants in America's "Four Regions".

What world do you live in?


What are you including? As I stated, the post I was replying to already incorporated Texas and Florida as separate entities for this.

Remove those two states, and the South's population drops dramatically. Are you going as far north as Virginia?
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:19 pm to
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454 - University of Arkansas


Too high
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