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re: 16 teams ... no byes

Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:06 pm to
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4 teams no byes

Not realistic.

It'll never go back to that.

You can't put the cat back in the bag.

12 isn't going to work in the long run.

I wanna blow job from a slobbering drunk Ava Gardner in her mid 30s .... that's never gonna happen either. Neither will we ever go back to a 4 team BCS format.
Posted by chkenhawk
Member since Jun 2025
611 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:14 pm to
8 teams. There would have been less crying this year if it had been 8
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:34 pm to
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Too complicated.


You didn’t look at it then.

It’s more simple with zero committees.
Eight team playoff with eight conferences. Y ou can even have a conference champ game to decide the winners of each conference. Keep those and keep money.

Try again.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:43 pm to
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There would have been less crying this year if it had been 8

This year.

What about last, and next, and years to com

It'll be 16 soon enough.

It'll never be cutdown to less than 12.

It could end up at 24.

16 is the sweet spot.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:53 pm to

Why don't we wait and see how JMU and Tulane do against Oregon and OM before making declarations of fact?

I could easily see one of the two pulling the upset, or at the bare minimum keeping the game close and having a chance to win at the end.

Tulane is the most likely, but if JMU catches Oregon overlooking them or having a sloppy game they have the momentum and coaching to win.
Posted by tpatten
Member since Oct 2013
55 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:09 am to
They still complain about being left out of March Madness and that's 68 teams.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16325 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:11 am to
Don’t have to lock them out, but they should be ranked high enough to participate like some of the teams Boise has had through the years, Utah before they wen P5, etc.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:13 am to
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Why don't we wait and see how JMU and Tulane do against Oregon and OM before making declarations of fact?


What declaration of fact has anyone made regarding those two?

Provide a quote to put your accusation into perspective.

BTW ... what are the early Vegas odds on those two games?

Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3337 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:22 am to
The FCS has this down pat. It’s awesome!

24-team bracket, with the top 16 teams seeded and the top 8 seeds getting first-round byes, while the #9-16 seeds play unseeded teams regionally in the first round for the remaining spots, with higher seeds hosting and aiming to progress to a championship game hosted at a neutral site, emphasizing home-field advantage for top seeds.

The regionalizing makes the first 2 rounds particularly compelling.

The first round had 3 upsets in the 8 games.

The second round had 2 upsets and 2 near upsets out of 8.

FCS playoffs are awesome.

Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:24 am to
Who would be in at 15 and 16 without the charity cases? Just curious.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:42 am to
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Who would be in at 15 and 16 without the charity cases? Just curious.

16 teams ... if you exclude JMU and Tulane?

Good question.

I'd have to guess Notre Dame and Utah.

Take the 16 teams that I included in my OP, remove JMU and Tulane, and insert 10-2 Utah and 10-2 Notre Dame.

But that's always going to be a slippery slope given the NCAA's DEI philosophy when it comes to their FBS covenant.

Thus the need to simply have four Super Conferences. The SEC, the B1G, The Big 12 and then what's remaining of the others after the three already mentioned expand to 20 teams each.

Given that would only allow for 80 teams total in the four super conferences. That would leave 50 orphan programs. How that might be handled is beyond me but, I think we can all agree ... there are no more than 80 current programs that deserve to be in the four super conferences.

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Posted by Floki
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:48 am to
4 & 5 haven’t played any competition this year so are unknown.

7,8,9,10 are all just as likely to win it all this year as 4 &5.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48346 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:51 am to
Actually this year worked out perfectly for the way they used to do it when they named the national champ before the bowl games. Everyone wants to apply the playoff format to just one year, and there will rarely be a time when it fits perfectly. There will usually be teams who got in and shouldn't have, or teams who were left out, or both.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1779 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:00 am to
Exactly
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2724 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:01 am to
Conference titles are gone imo the second the playoffs expand with no byes .
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48346 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:03 am to
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Conference titles are gone imo the second the playoffs expand with no byes .


They need to go, but they are such a huge money maker for the conferences.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:04 am to
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Conference titles are gone imo the second the playoffs expand with no byes .

100% agreed.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
3974 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:09 am to
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Hard no. 8 teams too many.

Total of 8 teams. Nobody outside 6 will ever win it.


This has been my precise point since they started chirping about the 12 team format.

I can think of 0 years since I got to college where anyone outside of the top 6 has a legitimate chance. Including flawed teams like ND, Texas, & BYU just to remove byes is silly.

BCS top 8 or bust
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3238 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:12 am to
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Total of 8 teams. Nobody outside 6 will ever win it.


I am ok with this if conferences only get to submit one team to 8 team playoff field. Conference have to have some meaning. Replaying conference games in the playoffs is stupid!
Posted by Mizzoustance
Akron, OH
Member since Nov 2019
421 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:58 am to
100% agree. 16 teams, ranked 1-16 by CFP COMMITTEE, with no byes! If ND or a G5/6 make it, it's because they were in Top 16! Pay the G5s more cash, or if they want to try to take the antitrust thing to court, B18 and SEC do their own tourney.
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