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re: 11 greatest dynasties in the SEC

Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:00 pm to
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same shiet, same teams, just different conference name during those times from 1926-1932.


are you serious?

that's like trying to count Super Bowl wins from before there was a super bowl
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:00 pm to
analogy fail
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:02 pm to
you are playing dumb i hope... because if this was an honest mistake teh thing to do would be admit it and move on

you can't count stuff from before there was a SEC... as a SEC acheivement
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20829 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:02 pm to
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the game will always be changing... but unless you think princeton and yale are two of the greatest football programs in history... most of us no longer consider the older records as being relevant

for the reasons already mentioned


It's not really the same reasons at all.

But I agree that we can't really call the Vols from 25-34 a great 'SEC' dynasty. I'm not really sure they can be called a dynasty.

In all honesty, the only ones I can really see being called a dynasty would be Bama from 71-80, Florida's run, Ole Miss' run, and UT's run from 36-46.
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 9:09 pm
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:04 pm to
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well, it's interesting... but not the same game at all

not integrated, fewer conference games, didn't have different squads for different units, didn't have tape study and training like today

it's cool stuff if you like visiting the basketball hall of fame to see the Minneapolis Lakers... but those old trophies are really not from teh same game as we see on the field today


You're right, it's a totally different game. But that was what it was back then. Everyone played by the same rules that was set back then. So everyone had the same opportunity as everyone else.

There were also players that played the entire game, both offense and defense. Some played either without helmets or just leather helmets to protect their heads. Did they even have good protective equipment back then?

What about team doctors and dietitians and nutritionists. The player's health and safety probably weren't as protected then as it is now.

The positions weren't the same. One of Bama's hall of famer's, Gilmer, actually played quarterback, halfback, defensive back, punter, and kickoff returner. And he played the different positions during the same game. Can't do that today.

So, everything was different, but it was the same difference for everyone.

You can't go back in history and apply the rules that exist today. And you can't take away the accomplishments that the players accomplished back then when playing by the rules that were set up for them back then.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:05 pm to
Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, Vanderbilt...all were in there.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:06 pm to
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Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi State, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, Vanderbilt...all were in there.



was that the question?
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:08 pm to
read the last page. I already answered your question.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:10 pm to
a list of those teams doesn't make them teh SEC

why are you even trying to debate this?

Yes/No... were those records part of the history of teh SEC? The answer is no
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33942 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:10 pm to
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1) Tennessee 1925-1934
81-9-6 (.900)
2 Conference titles (1927; 1932)
5 undefeated seasons (1927 8-0-1; 1928 9-0-1; 1929 9-0-1; 1931 9-0-1; 1932 9-0-1)
(Note: Tennessee had three straight undefeated seasons from 1927-1929 -though all three years had ties- and had a period from 1926-1932 where they only lost 2 football games)

2) Alabama 1971-1980
107-13 (.892)
8 Conference titles (1971; 1972; 1973; 1974; 1975; 1977; 1978; 1979)
3 national titles (1973; 1978; 1979)
1 Perfect Season (1979 12-0)

frick no. Bama dominated in the post-integration era. Their domination was infinitely more impressive than Tennessee beating up a bunch of teams when they were still playing with leather helmets.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:13 pm to
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Yes/No... were those records part of the history of teh SEC? The answer is no


the answer is yes
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:15 pm to



you're either trolling/joking or retarded... either way I'm done debating that point

you can't include games from before there was a SEC
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

frick no. Bama dominated in the post-integration era. Their domination was infinitely more impressive than Tennessee beating up a bunch of teams when they were still playing with leather helmets.


like I said in the first page the guy who originally wrote it lined up the teams by winning percentage for convenience purposes.
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
Member since Sep 2005
10830 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 9:59 pm to
geez its getting slow if someone is posting this shite and others are commenting
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65106 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 12:16 am to
molsusports seems to be saying that any accomplishments that occurred pre-1998 in football shouldn't be counted.

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 12:17 am to
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20829 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 12:31 am to
quote:

molsusports seems to be saying that any accomplishments that occurred pre-1998 in football shouldn't be counted.
As long as he includes 1998.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 1:05 am to
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2) Alabama 1971-1980
107-13 (.892)
8 Conference titles (1971; 1972; 1973; 1974; 1975; 1977; 1978; 1979)
3 national titles (1973; 1978; 1979)
1 Perfect Season (1979 12-0)


These were the days of my youth...the formulative years that forever made me a Bama fan.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 1:14 am to
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The BCS is actually better than those "media" voting systems IMO.


I hate to break it to you partner, but the BCS IS a "media" voting system...
Posted by BamaInHsv
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
17889 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 8:53 am to
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These were the days of my youth...the formulative years that forever made me a Bama fan.


You must about the same age as me, but I was born an Alabama fan. Never had a choice. The first words I ever spoke were "Roll Tide".

I've got a picture of me from 1966 (4 years old) wearing a very small Alabama letterman's sweater.

I don't regret it one bit, but I never had a choice about where my allegiance was. I just thank God every day that my parents weren't Auburn fans.

Congrats guys on your first NC in a half century.
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