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Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Coach O brought in a shite ton of talent and we didn't get embarrassed in so many blowouts like we've had with Luke. Luke hasn't done a damn thing. Keep in mind, Luke is banking over $3 million right out of the gate. Do I also need to point out how many years Luke has been here? Where is all of the talent he was supposed to bring in.

Luke was a piss poor OL coach that only got a job because of his family.

Honestly, I think Luke is mentally handicapped by his inability to talk, his inability to understand gameday decisions, and by that look he always has on his fat face.
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Shunface
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
So Luke is a better Coach according to you and Freeze would have lost more games than Luke. Good to know your position.


HJJ may have walked back from the ledge but you passed him on the way out.


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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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Coach O


Was awful. However Coach O has been able to work his way back into taking ver one of the better programs in the country.

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don't care to go back and forth about what a coach would potentially have don


That’s fine and I’m ok with that. I’ve seen what Luke could do with arguably the most skilled offense in the country and he couldn’t coach them out of a wet paper bag.

Everyone bitching about Freezes recruiting on d, which is warranted. What the frick has Luke done recruiting wise that makes you believe he can turn it around? He’s got nobody on D or O that’s worth a damn.


Shunface
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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Luke is able to get Golding, hires a legit OC and finishes this recruiting class REAL


IF Luke can hire a competent Defensive coordinator and Offensive coordinator I’m ok with giving him one more year.

I don’t believe any competent dcoord will come and Longo is still the OC sooooooo

Who are we projected to close with that will make this a decent recruiting class?


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Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Who said Luke could turn it around? He's had one year. Unless you are one of those guys that counts the interim year where he didn't know he'd be coach till literally Thanksgiving night.

As far as the offense goes, it finished 9th in the country in total offense. We just nitpick the offense to death because the defense was so terrible.

All of that said, no one is defending Luke. I'm willing to give him a shot just like I'd do any new coach. This rebuild will take time no matter who is in charge.


ABearsFanNMS
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Isn’t this the new recruiting thread....shouldn’t we do our best to be like our Little Brothers to the South getting excited about landing another 3* Diamond in the Rough since the first signing day is like 2 weeks away.


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RebelExpress38
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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As far as the offense goes, it finished 9th in the country in total offense. We just nitpick the offense to death because the defense was so terrible.



Now re-rank the offense only counting SEC games. Now re-rank the offense against teams with winning records.

If critiquing the offense for not scoring in the red zone or moving the ball at all against teams with a pulse is nitpicking then I guess we have different standards for success. Touting the 9th in total offense number is the most meaningless stat when 75% of those yards were gained against shitty teams in non conference games


olemissfan26
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Agree 100%.

Look at the stat that matters the most. Points.

How many points did we score against Bama, LSU, etc. having a top 10 offense is meaningless when we can’t score.


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Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
All of what you said is irrelevant. The guy said Luke couldn't coach the talent out of a wet paper bag. They finished 10th in the country for the season. That's just a stupid thing to say.

I'm done debating though. I'll support the team and if Luke is the coach one more year I'll hope he makes the right hires and recruits well. I'm not rooting against OM.


Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Luke staying is just prolonging the inevitable. The outside perception of the program is a complete dumpster fire. The fact that Luke didn't have a DC lined up already illustrates he's lost and has no idea what he's doing. No coordinator worth a damn is gonna want to come here only to have to be job hunting again after next season.

There's a difference in wanting what's best for this program and just being a straight up homer.
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Landmass
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All of what you said is irrelevant. The guy said Luke couldn't coach the talent out of a wet paper bag. They finished 10th in the country for the season. That's just a stupid thing to say.


I will give Luke credit. He had the 9th or 10th best offense in the entire country and still had a losing season. That takes talent.

Honestly though, that should illustrate the extent of his coaching abilities, but for some reason, you are giving him positive marks for coaching based on having such an amazingly great offense but losing 7 games.


Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
How is it being a homer hoping the best for the program and not openly rooting for him to fail?

There are several big name coordinators who currently would accept the OM DC position.

I'm not sure you realize how this work. How the hell could Luke have a DC locked up before the season even ends? That's stupid. I'm sure he had a list of guys he was interested in and McGriff packed his bags two weeks prior to being let go.

The only reason failure is inevitable is because some fans have decided Luke isn't the guy no matter who he brings in or what he does. Whether I think he can get it done or not, I'm not rooting against my own team. I hope and wish that he turns it around.


Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
What the hell are you talking about. The guy said Luke couldn't coach offense out of a wet paper bag which is stupid for a team that was 10th in the country in total offense.

I'm not giving Luke anything. He had a losing season because he had a defense that had extremely young guys in regard to talent and NO freaking talent in the upper classes. All a result of the coach some of you keep defending in Freeze. On top of that a coach coaching them that was hired by that same coach some of you keep defending.

Luke may not be the guy we need but we KNOW he is here for at least one more year. Why continue beating the dead horse about how much you hate him. How is that helping OM at all? How is that getting more recruits here?


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dhand
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
It’s clear the the Ole miss administration could care less about winning. Until there some changes, it won’t matter and two stars will be coming to Oxford


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Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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There are several big name coordinators who currently would accept the OM DC position.


Name "several".

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I'm not sure you realize how this work. How the hell could Luke have a DC locked up before the season even ends? That's stupid. I'm sure he had a list of guys he was interested in and McGriff packed his bags two weeks prior to being let go.


Do you honestly think folks just sit on their hands and wait until the end of the season before start making calls? Everyone knew McGriff would be gone months ago. Notice how other schools are able to hire quickly instead of sitting around on their ass? They threw a $2 million offer at Golding, and he said "hell no". Was that the master plan? lol

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The only reason failure is inevitable is because some fans have decided Luke isn't the guy no matter who he brings in or what he does.


No, it's inevitable because Luke has been a failure in his entire coaching career (look at his coaching career - with the exception of TN, anywhere he coached ended up in worse shape than when he first started). Why the hell would someone think a shitty OL coach would turn into a program building HC that could compete in the toughest conference in college football?


Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
WTH are you talking about?

The guy had a plan. He's going after a top DC which is what fans should want. If we throw our best offer at Golding and he turns it down, how the hell is that an indictment on Luke?

I don't have a clue why anyone would think Luke was the right hire. It's why I was vehemently against the hire. The guy is the coach no matter how much I'm against it. So instead of being HJJ and running up my blood pressure I'm just going to hope the best for the program I support. I'm not hoping it fails.


Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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WTH are you talking about?

The guy had a plan. He's going after a top DC which is what fans should want. If we throw our best offer at Golding and he turns it down, how the hell is that an indictment on Luke?

I don't have a clue why anyone would think Luke was the right hire. It's why I was vehemently against the hire. The guy is the coach no matter how much I'm against it. So instead of being HJJ and running up my blood pressure I'm just going to hope the best for the program I support. I'm not hoping it fails.


You said several high profile coordinators want to work for Luke - so I asked you to name them.

Look man, Luke is a failure - he's always been a failure his entire coaching career. He was a horrible OL coach that should have been fired years ago. I'm realistic in my view on the program - I know that the longer Luke is there, the worst shape our program will be in. The best he could ever reach is mediocrity - which isn't good enough. The best thing that could happen is when he goes 0-fer in the SEC next year (which is most likely to happen), then he'll finally get fired (along with Bjork) and we can hire a real coach that is capable of building a program and competing in this conference.

I'm not rooting against him - I'm just not wearing rose colored glasses. I refuse to bury my head in the sand and pretend his 19 years of coaching haven't shown a pattern. The administration has dug their heels in on Luke, for whatever reason. I support the players and wish them well, but I also think they deserve better than a horrible OL coach.

Do you believe Luke is capable of putting together a gameplan and a scheme to beat Saban? If you don't (like the overwhelming majority of us don't think he can), then what's even the point of him being here.


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Landmass
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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How the hell could Luke have a DC locked up before the season even ends?


You can at least gauge interest with back channel conversations. That's how this business works. That's why most places hire coaches pretty quickly. If we waited until the end of the season to START the search, then this is a massive failure on the leadership again because most good coaches have already been approached by other schools and Ole Miss would be a "Johnny Come Lately."


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Landmass
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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I'm not hoping it fails.


I would rather just rip off the wet band-aid than let it fester and end up with an infection.


DMagic
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
He was never getting fired this year as you were told repeatedly by probably more than one person. There was nobody else when we got that second year THAT DOESNT MEAN I THINK LUKE IS A GOOD OR EVEN MEDIOCRE COACH. Now that being said Bjork talking about extending him without any transparency regarding the buyout is high treason in my opinion. Business wise I understand negotiations but Bjork’s tone deaf incompetence is truly mid boggling.


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