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tigerbait2010
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
So the sanctions are already over, right? That should be the end of Matt luke if true. I thought he was just a placeholder until the sanctions blew over.


Plz give us raydarious Jones btw


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Shunface
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Bull shite to what.

Freeze didn’t get us into this mess or Freeze doesn’t get 9 wins with a bowl win?

Scar, Vandy would give us 7. Win one of Auburn, A&M or State at 8 bowl is 9.

We should’ve won Vandy and Scar. How is 9 far fetched?


Henry Jones Jr
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Don't bother.


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UMRealist
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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Freeze didn’t get us into this mess or Freeze doesn’t get 9 wins with a bowl win?
9 wins this year are you kidding me? the most talented team in ole miss history only got 9 wins (and Hugh still manages to frick up And lose to Memphis and Arkansas).

Were you in a coma for 2016? Did you forget we were 5-7 that year with a better quarterback, defense and overall team?

Why do you just assume we would win any of those games? Hugh lost games every year he had no business losing. The problems with our offense this year are no different than the years he was here. We underperformed against almost every capable defense and still couldn’t score in the red zone. The defense certainly wasn’t going to be any better either with Hugh on the sideline.


Henry Jones Jr
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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Were you in a coma for 2016? Did you forget we were 5-7 that year with a better quarterback, defense and overall team?
Uh did you forget that we lost 3 first round draft picks, replaced them all with true freshmen, lost our best DB the first game of the year then lost our quarterback with 4 games left in the season?
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Tornado Alley
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
The “we replaced three first round draft picks in 2016” narrative is garbage.

We replaced a first round WR with another first round WR. Shit, the replacement (AJ) is the best receiver in school history, and it’s not close.

We also replaced a first round left tackle with, guess what, another first round draft pick haha


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UMRealist
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
1. And yet that team was still far more talented than this team.

2. We lost our best DB first game of the season this year too

3. Chad missed 3 games. We were 4-5 in games chad played in. 1-2 without chad.

4. Luke also lost Shea Patterson but with 5 games to go in the season. Went 3-1 too and had a better record. You’ll justify Hugh losing games without chad but you won’t give Cresit to Luke for winning games after losing Shea.

I’m not even defending Luke here. Just fighting against the freeze apologist.


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Shunface
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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the most talented team in ole miss history only got 9 wins


10 wins.

Yes, I think Freeze would have gotten 7 wins. The hypothetical is possibly winning the bowl game plus one more. I never said guaranteed. Read next time.

And I’m not a Freeze apologist either but he’s a helluva lot better coach than Luke.


UMRealist
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Well he would not have gotten a chance at a bowl game because of a little thing he got us into so...


Shunface
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
He’s also not our coach so it’s all hypothetical.

I already said we’re in this because of him. I really don’t get where you’re going with all of this.

Are you saying Freeze would have won the same amount of games or less this year if he was Coach?


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Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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 did you forget that we lost 3 first round draft picks, replaced them all with true freshmen, lost our best DB the first game of the year then lost our quarterback with 4 games left in the season?



It's funny how you excuse Freeze in his 5-7 year following losing three first round players, but Luke is about to lose more but you expect more from him lol

Luke is about to lose potentially 3 first rounders, a two year starter at QB, his OC and DC who Freeze hired, the majority of his OL, his best safety and a third WR who is projected to be taken in the top 3 rounds and potentially is starting TE.


Landmass
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
In Freeze's 5-7 year, his only losing season in NCAA coaching, he played Bama to the wire and creamed UGA. If you remember, Chad Kelly got hurt and we had to play a true freshman QB. We still beat A&M before losing to Vandy and MSU.

So, even when this team had a bad season under Freeze, they still competed with the big boys. Under Luke, have you seen any competition at all against good teams?

NOPE!


UMRealist
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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Are you saying Freeze would have won the same amount of games or less this year if he was Coach?


I’m saying he won the same amount of games with a much better team. I don’t see how anybody can just assume he would win a couple more this year with this roster. Especially when you factor in his inexcusable ability to lose games he has no business losing and the team quitting on him in 2016.
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Landmass
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I’m saying he won the same amount of games with a much better team. I don’t see how anybody can just assume he would win a couple more this year with this roster. Especially when you factor in his inexcusable ability to lose games he has no business losing and the team quitting on him in 2016.


He's only had one losing season in his years of coaching NCAA football. I would argue that 5-7 was the exception, plus he had a really shitty O-Line in 2016 and therefore could not run the ball despite trying repeatedly to do so. You have selective and biased memories.


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Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
That's funny. I seem to recall Luke winning with his backup QB as well due to injury to his starter. Or do you just care to forget that?

No one is apologizing for Luke. But you guys defending Freeze are idiots.


Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
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 I seem to recall Luke winning with his backup QB as well due to injury to his starter. Or do you just care to forget that?


I seem to remember Luke kicking a FG at the 1/2 yard line, down by 20, with nothing to lose.

Luke is a gutless dumbfrick, and the fact that you are defending him speaks volumes for the category you'd fit into.

There are HS coaches out there that would have had this team playing better than that lazy fat bastard did.
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Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
No one is defending Luke. I'm also not going out of my way to defend the previous coach who was 5-7 his last full season here.


Pickle_Weasel
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Sure does come across as you laying out excuses for the shite Luke fielded. If you weren't trying to justify, then my apologies. What we've seen the last two years was the worst HC I have ever seen at this level.

Take someone like Bill Clark (who makes half of what Luke makes) and insert them after last season, and we would have won 7 games this year.


Doresrules
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
What the hell? The worst coach you seen? You obviously couldn't have been around for Coach O Ole Miss tenure.

I don't care to go back and forth about what a coach would potentially have done here with a program in year 2 of a two year bowl ban.

As far as laying out excuses none needed. If Luke is able to get Golding, hires a legit OC and finishes this recruiting class REAL fans will give the guy a chance who would in that case appear to be making the right moves.

Those who just want someone other than him at the helm no matter what he does will continue to beat the dead horse and not support the program they claim to be a fan of.


Landmass
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re: Ole Miss....Reeecccruittingg??
Stop acting like our team was decimated with talent this year. The bowl ban doesn't mean anything. We had a loaded roster on offense... one of the best in the nation and we couldn't score consistently against decent defenses. Our defense was not loaded with talent, but I've seen teams with much worse talent than ours be able to stop some offenses from time to time. We were horrible on both sides of the ball. Yes, Luke is one of the worst coaches to be at Ole Miss, EVER... including Sloan, Orgeron, and Dunn.

Our NCAA penalties were not tough like they were in the post Brewer years, when we were killed by scholarship reductions and honestly didn't have much as far as talent goes prior to that.

Say what you will about Orgeron, but dude recruited lights-out at Ole Miss and even though we lost a lot of games, we went down to the wire with some of the big boys we played. His teams would compete, which is a far cry from where we are under Luke. He had the benefit of a really weak schedule this season.
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