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re: Keep making excuses for Luke. This is what you will all get

Posted on 9/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by gamemc
Member since Jan 2013
913 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
Sarcasm
Posted by adp
Member since Jul 2015
2735 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 2:29 pm to
This is the worst Ole Miss football team I've ever seen. (since 1998)
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
2453 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:51 pm to
The defense is worse than the 2-10 team
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1020 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:40 pm to
Who would win?

2011 Ole Miss vs. 2018 Ole Miss

And how would the game go?
Posted by Ole Colonel 27
Member since Oct 2011
2453 posts
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:47 pm to
One could say that anyone who attended that game would not be a winner.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Fire everyone.

And hire strictly on merit.

Any ties to Ole Miss, Oxford businesses by one or two degrees of connections should be considered a negative and potential reason for exclusion from the hiring pool.


100% Agree.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Fire everyone.

And hire strictly on merit.

Any ties to Ole Miss, Oxford businesses by one or two degrees of connections should be considered a negative and potential reason for exclusion from the hiring pool.
Agree
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18154 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:24 am to
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He’s a year rental until the bowl ban goes away. If he’s here next year I’ll be pissed


I don't know where this theory comes from but nothing could be farther from the truth. Do you have any guesses why Freeze did not get rid of Luke when year after year, our OL sucked? Hell, I would even go so far as to state that in 2015, had we had a different OL coach, we would have probably won the national championship. Luke is a golden boy. He is the coach that they chose to stay here for at least 5 years. We are stuck with his fat arse. He still is not recruiting any defensive players. This will only get worse and worse. We are back at rock bottom.
Posted by gamemc
Member since Jan 2013
913 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:22 am to
yeah ok... our OL gave up 38, 37, and 50+ points to Florida, Memphis, and frickin Arkansas
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18154 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:35 am to
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yeah ok... our OL gave up 38, 37, and 50+ points to Florida, Memphis, and frickin Arkansas


We had no running game whatsoever because the OL did not know the difference between run blocks and pass blocks. Do you not remember how often Bo and Chad had to get rid of the ball quick to avoid being sacked? Magically, that OL improved the day someone else started coaching their position... and magically we have a running game again.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:30 am to
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Luke is a golden boy.


I don't want to act like I'm some super insider because I'm not, but there is a lot of truth to this. There are a lot of people on campus, particularly those from Mississippi, who love Luke so much that I am not sure will ever give up on him. All I hear whenever I mention that he is clearly not an SEC-level coach is "One of us," and "Player's coach."

Player's coach has always been a demonstrable fallacy. There have been endless college football teams who had coaches they loved to pieces and never won squat. And one need only look at Alabama's dark ages for about a decade pre-Saban to see what an obsession with "One of Us" gets you.

However, I'm not sure that unless there is some pretty sustained pushback that Luke is going anywhere no matter how poorly this season or the next goes.
Posted by 256Rebel
Member since Dec 2017
402 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:05 pm to
One of us?

One of us gets you: Kinard, Cooper, Brewer, Freeze, and Luke. Kinard won his 1st year (with Vaught's team) and sucked after that. Otherwise, only 2 won with any regularity (Brewer and Freeze) and they got us put on probation 3 times.

The ones who were not one of us? Sloan (who had won regularly at Vandy and Texas Tech), Dunn (1 yr interim), Tuberville, Cutcliffe, the abortion known as Coach O, and Nutt (that wonderful coach … now he can't sue me for defamation). Can't explain why Sloan sucked so bad, given that he won everywhere but at Ole Miss. Tuberville was fighting the effects of the FNCAA and at least took us to a bowl. Cutcliffe won with Tuberville's players and a once-in-a-generation QB. I won't even begin to discuss the last 2 (Don't sue me, HDN).

So, what's the answer? One of us, when it seems like winning = FNCAA colonoscopies, or outsiders who work out about 50% of the time.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 1:30 pm to
Freeze wasn't really one of us. He was a fan but never actually went to school here
Posted by 256Rebel
Member since Dec 2017
402 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:46 pm to
Quite true. I included him as one of us because he did serve on O's staff.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13580 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

The defense is worse than the 2-10 team






We’ve been out recruited on defense by everyone




Offense is in better shape. No excuses for them not competing with good coaching.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Peter Venkman
Jackson, TN
Member since Aug 2016
2463 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:20 pm to
Maybe the 30,000 fans in the stands this weekend will send a message to the administration, but nah, they’re blind.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:02 pm to
I just got a call for money from the university, told them only when we get a new football coach..doing my part
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:54 pm to
But think of the players guys. They need support

/Sarcasm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

just got a call for money from the university, told them only when we get a new football coach..doing my part
Good. frick them. The thing that will send a bigger message is if the Grove is empty too.
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