re: Are you DONE?

I swear it seems that some of these people are more excited for Luke than they would be if Nick Saban took the job.

I have been a Rebel for 40 years. I don't understand why so many so called Rebels, believe that our program is that attractive.

We battle against football powerhouses in the west in Bama, FAuburn and LSU on an annual basis where we aren't near the sexy destination as any of those schools.

Not to mention Arkansas, aTm probably have more winning tradition than Ole Miss in football, plus they have twice the financial support.

That leaves the 2 Mississippi schools fighting each other for recruits, while Bama and LSU poach some of the top talent from our state. The least populated state in the western conference with 2 schools.

Would most of these so called fans take a position at a law firm or corporation not knowing what legal issues that those businesses would be facing in the near future?

Most coaches are much more careful not to get any where near schools where show causes are being given out to former coaches at that school.

Didn't Louisville basketball have to go in house to replace Pitino after their scandal? Hired a former player and assistant, because nobody wanted the job.

I want someone coaching our players, who has a love for Ole Miss. The same committment that I have had for the last 40 years.

I don't need to see the team win every game, what I enjoy is seeing players that play their hearts out because they are Ole Miss Rebels.

Through all the bull shite they have been through, those players kept playing hard.

We have a couple of years to see if Luke can get his feet on the ground and improve. I rather have an Ole Miss Rebel coaching, than an Ed Orgeron or a Hootie Nutt.

Rebels need to understand, our program has issues right now and it's going to take time to right the ship. It's a whole lot easier to do so if you can hang on to talent that can win. There is enough talent returning that could win 8 or 9 games. Take half of that away and we are back to 2-10.

So you bought the players threat to leave?

Where would they go if we hired a competent coach?

I know exactly what I said: give him a chance.

I now regret saying it and he's had his chance. It's time to move on from this experiment in coaching.

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Rebels need to understand, our program has issues right now and it's going to take time to right the ship. It's a whole lot easier to do so if you can hang on to talent that can win. There is enough talent returning that could win 8 or 9 games. Take half of that away and we are back to 2-10.

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Just saying... Hugh Freeze took all of 1 year to right a much worse ship. Bill Clark took an even bigger disaster and turned it around quickly. I don't buy into the old thoughts that it will take time to turn around. They sure as heck burned the program down quickly enough.

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Hire was a no brainer to try to retain players, some potential upside if he pans out

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My no-brainer was that the program needed a reset and bringing in a real HC would have put us in a better position long-term than promoting an underachieving assistant coach to a job he had no business getting. A competent and qualified coach would have done more to keep players here than Matt Luke did. It almost seems that the players that transferred did so because Matt Luke was hired.

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For that matter, how much worse would our record have been if someone else, like Bill Clark, had been hired and we hypothetically lost a few players? 4-8?, 3-9? Big deal. We weren't going to a bowl anyway. 1 or 2 more losses seems a small price to pay to set the program on a better path.

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Bingo! You are thinking logically about the long-term success of the program. I don't want to make do with duct tape and band-aids.

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Where are you getting Freeze was in a worse position? All of his major contributors to those first two years were all Nutt 2010/2011 guys. Only two players were in such dire positions academically that they wouldn’t have been eligible and they were both from usp. Luke inherited a talented lineup just like Freeze with the added fun of not being able to hire his own coordinators. That doesn’t excuse his crappiness but stop pretending Freeze was great.

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I'm many 1st rounders did Freeze inherit?

Moncrief was a 3rd round selection (90th selection overall). Brassell and CJ, of course, weren't drafted. So the answer was that Freeze didn't inherit any 1st round NFL talent. :)

I just think the argument that Freeze had a more talented roster than what Luke started with is really dishonest and shouldn't even be attempted to be argued.

Your argument is weird - we know for a FACT that Freeze didn't inherit any 1st round talent. We'll know the answer for Luke in April (anywhere from 2-3 1st round picks, going by current projections).

Comparing DK to Moncrief doesn't work - two totally different receivers. DK and AJ are the larger body receivers that can go up and fight for the ball and break tackles. Donte is a burner.

You can say that come April if noone gets drafted in the 1st round, sure.

His argument isn't that the team had zero talent - it was that the talent wasn't even close to what Luke inherited, which only a moron would argue against.