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re: If the Muslims want holy war then let's give it to them.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:12 pm to CrimsonChin
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:12 pm to CrimsonChin
Forget the religion itself. Let's nuke the liberal media that sucks Muhammad dick all day long. I can actually stomach some terrorism as long as it's not constantly portrayed as a religion of peace.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:18 pm to PrivatePublic
I wouldn't be so impatient.... Iran seems destined to frick with Isreal in the worst way and when they do, it's gonna happen.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:28 pm to dead money
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Iran seems destined to frick with Isreal in the worst way and when they do, it's gonna happen.
Unlike Iran at present, the Israeli's have nukes. And will use them on the Iranians without hesitation if they legitimately threaten Israel.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:41 pm to dead money
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I wouldn't be so impatient.... Iran seems destined to frick with Isreal in the worst way and when they do, it's gonna happen.
And when they do, Iran won't exist anymore. Israel has the capability to wipe Iran off the map.
The smarter leaders of Iran seem to know that but it's the militants who want to continue poking at the coiled rattlesnake. They think their religion will defeat Israel. Religion has never won a war.
For us, the reality is that we are engaged in a conflict with radical Islamists that will probably continue for the remainder of this century. It isn't like any of our 20th century wars in which we were engaged on enemy soil and could withdraw and end things.
This war has come to us and, unless we remain extra vigilant, there will be many more attacks like 9/11. Israel has faced this threat for their entire existence. We are new to it on our soil and it isn't going away any time soon.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:51 pm to Hardy_Har
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Surely it isn't the crazy book on the top shelf combined with all the child buttfricking.
What does Christianity have to do with this?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:54 pm to Stonehog
I'm not religious at all but it is disingenuous to compare modern Christianity to Islam.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:57 pm to dead money
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Iran seems destined to frick with Isreal in the worst way
But they can't as long as Israel is protected by the western world.
The danger is an Israel that is getting too extremist and out of touch- aka "not protected by the western world." They need to realize the big surplus of white guilt they have counted on since WW2 is running out, and will run out a LOT quicker if they keep being dicks about settlements. The whole "chosen people" line maybe worked with the baby boomers, but modern youth are less religious and therefore less likely to take their side against a browner person for religious reasons. Israel needs to wake up to the reality that they are NOT made of teflon, and let some of those New York/Florida liberal Jews (who are ashamed of the hardlining) run the ship for a while.
The Iran deal is all about leverage over the Saudis who are increasingly acting unstable. It has little to do with Israel despite their fears of self-importance.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:57 pm to HempHead
Crazy book and child buttfricking sounds a lot like Catholicism.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:59 pm to cardboardboxer
There is no point I've tried for a couple years. Everyone wants to do something without thinking of how to actually achieve the desired result,
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:00 pm to Stonehog
Crazy book? Sure. But let's not pretend that pedophilic sodomy is more ubiquitous in the RCC than among rural areas in many Muslim countries.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:07 pm to CrimsonChin
quote:IN!!!!!
If the Muslims want holy war then let's give it to them.
WE STRIKE TONIGHT!!!!
Oh......hold up.......wait......Dancing With the Stars tonight......O.K. how 'bout.........Mmmmm fellas coming over with XBox tomorrow.....Hmmmmmm
lemme get back with you.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:29 pm to CrimsonChin
It moved 
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:30 pm to Kentucker
quote:The war has come to us for over 100 years now. But, by all means, remain distracted with your Muslim hate.
This war has come to us
quote:I agree. So why are we wasting time, money and effort halfway around the world?
unless we remain extra vigilant, there will be many more attacks like 9/11.
quote:One attack in 60 years should be proof enough for anyone.
Israel has faced this threat for their entire existence. We are new to it on our soil and it isn't going away any time soon.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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But they can't as long as Israel is protected by the western world.
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Israel needs to wake up to the reality that they are NOT made of teflon
If Jimmy Carter is to be believed, Israel has the 4th largest nuclear arsenal in the world. At the most conservative, they've got somewhere around 100 warheads and complete nuclear triad capability (sea, air, and land).
They've also got true ICBM capability with an estimated range of 3,000 miles on the low end and 7,500 on the high end and is MIRV (multiple independently targeted warhead) capable. In case that range doesn't register, at the low end estimate, they can hit any target in Europe, Africa, and a good bit of Asia. At the high end, they can hit any target except the very far western United States.
In a worst case scenario, they don't need one damned lick of help from anybody. They're completely capable of utterly removing any regional threat from the face of the earth.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm to Pavoloco83
At the inception of the Republic, this Country was bounded by the English to the North and West, the French to the West and South and the Spanish to the South. At the time, these were the three largest colonial empires in Europe. We were our most vulnerable at that time, yet our Founders still placed war powers with the government's most deliberative body: Congress.
Now we abandon our principles because of several thousand Islamic radicals. We have a President who asserts the power to declare war unilaterally, like the absolute monarchs of Europe our Founders abhorred.
You call my position naïve, but read the Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, Washington's Farewell Address and John Quincy Adams' political treatises. They make clear where the Founders stood on perpetual war against an undefined enemy. In the Barbary Wars, Congress declared war. It had a purpose and an end. Today that does not exist. We have been at war since I was a junior in high school. Now I'm 30 years old. This War on Terror will never end or will end when our economy collapses from the debt we've accrued to fund it.
Now we abandon our principles because of several thousand Islamic radicals. We have a President who asserts the power to declare war unilaterally, like the absolute monarchs of Europe our Founders abhorred.
You call my position naïve, but read the Federalist Papers, the Anti-Federalist Papers, Washington's Farewell Address and John Quincy Adams' political treatises. They make clear where the Founders stood on perpetual war against an undefined enemy. In the Barbary Wars, Congress declared war. It had a purpose and an end. Today that does not exist. We have been at war since I was a junior in high school. Now I'm 30 years old. This War on Terror will never end or will end when our economy collapses from the debt we've accrued to fund it.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:41 pm to JustGetItRight
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If Jimmy Carter is to be believed, Israel has the 4th largest nuclear arsenal in the world. At the most conservative, they've got somewhere around 100 warheads and complete nuclear triad capability (sea, air, and land).
Who cares about that? There is a reason no country since WW2 has used a nuke in battle. The idea of a nuclear deterrent is so 1980s it hurts. Iran isn't going to nuke Isreal, just the idea is nuts.
But Iran MIGHT have the influence to push the international communities in directions that can force the hand of Isreal on settlement issues, or minimize their influence in the region. They can hoard all the hard power they want, the stuff is almost useless in 2015 unless you are the US. Hell Germany is the most powerful European country and they don't even own an aircraft carrier.
The name of the game is soft power and economic power, and right now Isreal gets more money from the US than anybody. Their threat is that going away because they can't accept the reality that a secular world will push them into a two state solution. They need to see the writing on the wall. No country is an island.
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:42 pm to Stonehog
Christianity doesn't block off the streets in Kabul to have a pederasity party.
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This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 5:00 pm to SCLibertarian
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In the Barbary Wars, Congress declared war.
I now really want to believe you're a troll. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, I still want to believe nobody can be this ignorant of history.
Congress has declared war exactly 5 times in the entire history of the United States and none of those times involved the multiple actions against the Barbary pirates (which actually spanned a couple of decades). Those actions were given the same type of congressional approval that was granted for Vietnam, Desert Storm, the second Iraq war, the War in Afghanistan, and many other military operations that have occurred since our country was founded.
Your history classes have done you an extreme disservice if you think there is anything different at all in the way our country uses military force today than it has in the past.
The Barbary pirates have already been discussed. Here are a few you've probably never heard about. Note the date ranges. I've selected some from every century to show just how wrong you are when you assert that there's some insidious new trend.
Quasi-War (late 1700s) - Undeclared naval war with France.
The first and second Sumatran expiditions (early/mid 1800s) - a series of US attacks in the Java sea
Banana wars (early 1900s) - An entire series of US military interventions in central America
Finally, here is a great little summary of US military force use overseas. It covers 1798-2004 - 206 years. It lists over 300 actions - exactly 5 of which were declared wars.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:35 pm to HempHead
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I'm not religious at all but it is disingenuous to compare modern Christianity to Islam.
Disingenuous is the name of Stonehog's game, tbh
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:28 pm to Stonehog
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Crazy book and child buttfricking sounds a lot like Catholicism.
frick you Stonehog. Downvote motherfricker.
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