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re: Anybody else LOVE their SEC team but really despise the state as a whole?
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:04 pm to Arksulli
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:04 pm to Arksulli
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There are reasons to dislike the South, and to love it, but lack of a music scene isn't one of them unless you are bemoaning the lack of polka music.
If he's from Prattville I can see where he's coming from. The Montgomery area music scene sucks (or at least it used to) because the former long-term mayor, Emory Folmar, actively resisted live rock shows for years.
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One notorious incident of many was his crackdown on rock-n-roll concerts in the city-owned Montgomery Civic Center --- a mass arrest of concert-goers carrying drugs, paraphernalia and minors with alcohol and beer at the facility early in his tenure set the tone for his administration, according to some. Folmar defended his actions after he had attended many concerts and witnessed personally the abuse of drugs and alcohol, particularly by minors. He noted on many occasions he saw a young girl "puking her guts out" after consuming too much vodka. Subsequently, few live rock-n-roll acts appeared in Montgomery during his tenure.
Sure, there are other places within a couple hours, but that's different than being able to uber over to a show on a Thursday night.
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Posted on 7/15/18 at 4:04 pm to OKTGR580
There's a reason why so many Auburn students/alumni live in Georgia
Posted on 7/15/18 at 5:11 pm to BowlJackson
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I'm assuming he means live music and I'm still baffled. Birmingham has a great music scene, and if you wait long enough then just about any act you could ever want to see will come through town eventually.
And I know that Huntsville, Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Mobile/ Gulf Shores all have solid music scenes and get some big acts too.
Truth. And he mentioned gospel music. I don't even know of a place where you could go to find that. Church, maybe? AM radio?
I know I didn't enjoy MGM when I worked there, but is it really that third world that they don't have much live music?
ETA - I don't know about the bar scene, but MPAC was advertising a different concert just about every week a few years ago.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 7/15/18 at 5:14 pm to northshorebamaman
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If he's from Prattville I can see where he's coming from. The Montgomery area music scene sucks (or at least it used to) because the former long-term mayor, Emory Folmar, actively resisted live rock shows for years.
I didn't know that.
Todd Strange has been the mayor for years, now, though, and he's a big classic rock fan. Maybe that's why MPAC books all the classic rock acts, to humor him. It's very much a good ol' boy town.
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:05 am to Tuscaloosa
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Still love the place in a way, though, if that makes sense.
It doesn’t. It’s alabama.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:15 am to OKTGR580
I moved here after college and wouldn't mind staying here for a while.
So yea, I wouldn't wanna live in Cola and raise a family there.
So yea, I wouldn't wanna live in Cola and raise a family there.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:24 am to OKTGR580
There are aspects of Alabama I'll always love - the diverse landscape, the friendliness of most of its people, the memories I've made here.
But yeah, there are a lot of aspects of this state that I hate. As nice as the people can be, they are also very short sighted and small minded, though that's not really something exclusive to Alabama.
And don't get me started on the politics in this state.
But yeah, there are a lot of aspects of this state that I hate. As nice as the people can be, they are also very short sighted and small minded, though that's not really something exclusive to Alabama.
And don't get me started on the politics in this state.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:45 am to Tuscaloosa
Makes perfect sense. I have a love/hate with Louisiana. The love comes from the nostalgia of growing up, my family, the food I grew up eating, etc.
The hate is all the things everyone already knows. Crime, education, poverty, corruption, infrastructure, etc
I’d never move there unless it were certain pockets in New Orleans, and really not even there unless the crime rate in nola overall was significantly reduced.
The hate is all the things everyone already knows. Crime, education, poverty, corruption, infrastructure, etc
I’d never move there unless it were certain pockets in New Orleans, and really not even there unless the crime rate in nola overall was significantly reduced.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:46 am to OKTGR580
Only despise the area between Chattanooga and the GSMNP.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:55 am to Open Dore Policy
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Only despise the area between Chattanooga and the GSMNP.
Tellico plains is beautiful.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 8:55 am to Open Dore Policy
My real home state is Tennessee, since I grew up here. I have to say- I love it here. Nashville in particular is great despite rising cost of living. It’s just a great place. My in laws are in Knoxville, which I love as well. Memphis, even with it’s faults, is still a pretty cool place to visit, eat and explore for its unique culture. The outdoors in this state are amazing. Fly fishing, turkey hunting are top shelf. The smokies is premier camping and hiking. Just overall a pretty sweet state.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:19 am to Tuscaloosa
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Pretty much... but... at the same time, I get defensive when other people talk shite.
Kinda like... yeah, my mom might be a bitch, but you best keep your mouth shut about her.
100% this
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:26 pm to OKTGR580
Pretty much anyone in the SEC that doesn't live in GA, TN or AR should feel this way. Maybe FL but Florida man is ruining any redeeming qualities that the state has.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 12:34 pm to OKTGR580
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I never knew KY had issues like that
Don't get me wrong. Kentucky is absolutely beautiful geographically and the weather is moderate.
It's the politics and the parochial culture that are abysmal. It doesn't matter if Democrats or Republicans are in office. Those bastards are looking out for themselves, not the Commonwealth.
I think the culture in the rural areas, which is 50% of the population, is closest to Alabama in its provincialism and narrow mindedness. These folks might as well still be in the 1950s as far as their views of the world are concerned. This has made it very difficult to attract more broad-minded businesses, which are looking for welcoming places for their diverse staffs.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:42 pm to Barstools
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Pretty much anyone in the SEC that doesn't live in GA, TN or AR
Georgia and Tennessee yes but Arkansas? The only place I’d even consider in AR is NWA Fayetteville area just bc it has a different vibe than the rest of the state. And that’s a stretch for me. Am I right? Florida is the most overrated state in the country. Can’t stand that place
Posted on 7/16/18 at 4:47 pm to TRUERockyTop
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Tennessee is the shite.
So I’ve been told and I’ve enjoyed my time there. Seriously considering a move to the Nashville area at the beginning of next year. Knoxville ain’t bad either. Vols and Tigers can coexist
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:43 pm to Kentucker
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I think the culture in the rural areas, which is 50% of the population, is closest to Alabama in its provincialism and narrow mindedness. These folks might as well still be in the 1950s as far as their views of the world are concerned. This has made it very difficult to attract more broad-minded businesses, which are looking for welcoming places for their diverse staffs.
Stereotype much? Alabama hasn't had any trouble attracting high tech German, Japanese, and Korean auto manufacturers, plus Aerobus, Amazon, Kimberly Clark, DC Blox, and many other companies. They've eschewed the almost all white workforces of KY and TN for the white, black, and brown peoples of other states, particularly Alabama. It's not San Jose, but it's a hell of a lot better than many other southern states.
South Carolina has had great statewide success attracting business, as well. Other states have only mostly relied on an enormous metro like Atlanta, Nashville, or Charlotte to drive growth.
Kentucky offers neither a qualified diverse workforce, a hospitable business climate, or a desirable metro. (although I enjoy hanging out in Louisville)
You should probably spend some more time reflecting in the mirror, rather than casting aspersions based on your geographic bigotry.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:30 pm to Evolved Simian
Geographic bigotry? 
Kentucky has more auto-industry businesses than does Alabama. We also have two international airports serving two desirable metros, Louisville and Cincinnati. The airport in Northern Kentucky is now a hub for Amazon distributions nationwide. We, like Alabama, don't have a lack of factory or service jobs.
Politically, I think the states of Kentucky and Alabama are similar with those voters who live in rural areas or small towns having more influence over statewide decisions than urban voters. Alabama made a huge statement by putting down Roy Moore recently but will the alliance amongst blue voters become a factor in future elections? I hope so.
Both states need to attract some of the high-tech industries that are responsible for other southern states' growth, such as Georgia and Tennessee. Tennessee, despite its "almost all white workforce" is putting both Kentucky and Alabama to shame regarding growth.
Why is that the case? I think it's because Tennessee has four moderate to large metro areas that have been aggressive in promoting their geographic advantages and business-friendly policies at the state level.
Kentucky and Alabama both should look to Tennessee and Georgia for best practices in attracting business.
Kentucky has more auto-industry businesses than does Alabama. We also have two international airports serving two desirable metros, Louisville and Cincinnati. The airport in Northern Kentucky is now a hub for Amazon distributions nationwide. We, like Alabama, don't have a lack of factory or service jobs.
Politically, I think the states of Kentucky and Alabama are similar with those voters who live in rural areas or small towns having more influence over statewide decisions than urban voters. Alabama made a huge statement by putting down Roy Moore recently but will the alliance amongst blue voters become a factor in future elections? I hope so.
Both states need to attract some of the high-tech industries that are responsible for other southern states' growth, such as Georgia and Tennessee. Tennessee, despite its "almost all white workforce" is putting both Kentucky and Alabama to shame regarding growth.
Why is that the case? I think it's because Tennessee has four moderate to large metro areas that have been aggressive in promoting their geographic advantages and business-friendly policies at the state level.
Kentucky and Alabama both should look to Tennessee and Georgia for best practices in attracting business.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:57 pm to Kentucker
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Kentucky has more auto-industry businesses than does Alabama
Kentucky has legacy jobs. The growth is all in other states.
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Kentucky and Alabama both should look to Tennessee and Georgia for best practices in attracting business.
That's not realistic. Neither Alabama nor Kentucky can compete with the critical mass of the exploding metros in Atlanta and Nashville. And Huntsville is a better spot than any of Tennessee's other three large cities, honestly. Georgia without metro Atlanta is just Mississippi.
In the absence of a similar population engine, (which is what Louisville SHOULD be), South Carolina is a much better model for economic growth.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:06 pm to OKTGR580
I don't hate Louisiana. There are a lot of good people here and it was a decent place to grow up in the 80s.
I probably should have left before I had kids though. Although I have a great job, there are better economic opportunities elsewhere.
We live in BR and can't really use the public schools. Paying 12k per year in tuition kind of sucks but so does sitting in traffic for 2 hrs per day
I probably should have left before I had kids though. Although I have a great job, there are better economic opportunities elsewhere.
We live in BR and can't really use the public schools. Paying 12k per year in tuition kind of sucks but so does sitting in traffic for 2 hrs per day
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 7:50 pm
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