northshorebamaman

Well, according to most of my family, it does, and it's in Jackson County, Missouri, just outside of Independence.

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Biden - According to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), the national average price of regular gasoline climbed above $4 per gallon for several consecutive months in 2022, beginning in March and remaining there through July. Prices ultimately peaked at about $5.02 to $5.07 per gallon in June 2022, marking the highest national average ever recorded

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And what were they in 2023 and 2024?

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I doubt it would hurt much at all. We've closed large bases all over Germany the past 20 years with pretty much no impact to their economies.

Heidelberg, Schweinfurt, Wurzburg, Bamberg, Mannheim, etc.

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It probably hit smaller towns like Baumholder or Babenhausen harder, but when I was there for the Darmstadt closure, the only visible change was the alterations shop outside one of the gates shutting down. Even the guy next door, whose entire business was selling auto insurance to soldiers, is somehow still around almost 20 years later.

A lot of people miss this, but U.S. forces in Germany weren’t historically concentrated on massive installations. They were spread across many dozens (maybe over 100) of small kasernes, some barely hosting a battalion or two, embedded in otherwise normal mid-sized cities.

Today it’s the opposite. Forces are consolidated, and a full withdrawal would hit places like K-Town, Ramstein (basically one ecosystem), or Grafenwöhr hard. But the footprint now is a fraction of what it was 30 years ago, so most of the real economic shock already happened during the drawdowns. What’s left would hurt locally, but it wouldn’t be the same kind of systemic impact people imagine.

I saw the Dead at Shoreline in Mountain View in 1995 (I was 16) because a girl I liked was into it. Turned out to be their last show on the west coast. I was on a weird run of musicians dying right after I saw them. Jerry Garcia, Kurt Cobain, Bradley Nowell, Biggie Smalls, Shannon Hoon, Jeff Buckley. Got dragged to Aerosmith 3 times by my dad and those frickers are still going today. :banghead:


It wasn't my thing, I'll just say that

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That’s a lot of words to say I am a bitch. Just do that next time

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Just one man's opinion but this is how that reads to me:

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Perhaps it's time to start lining some of you up against the wall.

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I’m focusing on the basketball court because that’s the claim being made in this thread. If you want to defend it, then defend it. Saying “why are you focusing on it” is just dodging the actual point (like a bitch).

Now to your examples.

Yes, the Truman Balcony is structural. That’s not the issue. The reason it didn’t need a separate act of Congress is because it was a smaller, discrete addition handled within existing authority and funding, not a full reconstruction or a brand new standalone building requiring new appropriations. That’s why the full White House gut job went through Congress, but the balcony itself didn’t. Same property, different scale, different category.

Which puts it in the same lane as:

Rose Garden changes
flagpole additions
and Obama’s basketball setup

All of those are routine modifications to existing property handled administratively. No one went to Congress for any of them.

Now here’s the part you keep dodging:

Explain why Obama adding paint and hoops to an existing court is somehow a bigger or different category than Trump installing permanent flagpoles or modifying the Rose Garden.

You haven’t addressed that once. You just keep jumping to bigger or unrelated examples to avoid it.

So again, either they’re all the same category, or you need to explain why Obama’s was somehow bigger than Trump’s.

eta- and he logs off. Shocker. Another dumbfrick maga politard completely incapable of defending the idiotic shite he says with total confidence. If the people I agreed with were so consistently bad at justifying or even articulating my position, I'd give a little thought to the question of why my position consistently aligns with the beliefs of retards, but I guess that's just me.

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WTF are you talking about ......are you saying adding that balcony isn't structural? Well I would say it is... It is an addition. Just like then new ballroom. What design reviews are you referring to? Are you saying the new ball room didn't get designed or reviewed? Are you dumb? The balcony didn't need Congress because it wasn't publicly funded....neither does the ballroom.

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You’re still mixing categories and then dodging the actual comparison.

You're doing that because you're not capable of even understanding, much less engaging, the argument.

Yes, the Truman Balcony is structural. That’s not the issue. The issue is why it didn’t need a separate act of Congress, and the answer is simple: it was a smaller, discrete project handled within existing authority and funding, not a full reconstruction or a brand new standalone building requiring new appropriations. That’s exactly why Truman’s full gut renovation went through Congress, but the balcony itself didn’t. Same property, different scale, different category.

Which puts it in the same lane as:

Rose Garden changes
flagpole additions
and Obama’s basketball setup

All of those are modifications to an existing property handled under normal administrative authority. No one went to Congress for any of them, and no one expected them to.

Now here’s the part you keep avoiding:

Explain why Obama adding paint and hoops to an existing court is somehow a bigger or different category than Trump installing permanent flagpoles or modifying the Rose Garden.

You haven’t touched that comparison once, because you can’t. You aren't capable.

Instead you jumped to Truman’s full reconstruction and now a ballroom, which are clearly a different category of project entirely.

And honestly, I welcome the “are you dumb” shite on this board. For anyone reading along who isn’t a dumbass like yourself. it just makes it more obvious you’ve got nothing to say about the actual point.

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Do you think China/India etc. are going to simply reduce their intake of oil?

Or do you think they’re going to start offering more money to other suppliers that aren’t affected by this issue leading to an increase in the global price of oil?

Which one? Hmm…truly difficult to say.

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Barry Soetoro had a basketball court built. I wonder what the difference is? (Wink/Wink)

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If you want an actual apples to apples comparison, you’d compare Obama adding hoops and paint to an existing tennis court with Trump’s comparable projects like the Rose Garden changes or the flagpole additions, neither of which were blocked or required special approval and all of which fall under the same category of routine modifications to the grounds. That’s the lane the basketball setup sits in, not new construction.

If you want to argue they’re different, then explain how painting lines and putting up hoops on an existing court is somehow closer to putting up a new building than altering the Rose Garden or installing permanent flagpoles.

You’re just comparing a minor modification to an entirely different category like building a ballroom and pretending they’re the same thing and ignoring the similar in scope projects Trump had no problem doing.