re: So Drew sucks

Lock is Eli Manning

Can make great throws and terrible ones

Looks completely overmatched at times but occasionally makes you think he has it.

With the time he had no one was open in time. It looked like many times WR gave up on routes when they were not open. The time he threw a touchdown he had to point to Knox where to go.

He did miss some passes. When Bama dropped back with 8 and rushed 3 he was able to hit one of the 5 receivers for a touchdown.

He may not be the best QB in the 2019 class, but he has had little help from his WR’s the last 4 games. He is not afraid to take a hit and tonight there were vey few times he was able to step up in the pocket. He had to dropback or rollout almost every time. This caused him to have less zip on his ball and less accurate.

Should have went with two TE fronts for quick short passes and open up the run. This could have opened up the middle of the field and spread out their LB’s.

Still would have lost, but we could have scored a few more points.

Proud of the D tonight

Lock needs Hall to get healthy. He’s a good QB when he has receivers that can consistently beat coverage and get open.

With Hall out Mizzou doesn’t have that, that’s when Lock presses and makes the mental mistakes.

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Lock needs Hall to get healthy. He’s a good QB when he has receivers that can consistently beat coverage and get open.

With Hall out Mizzou doesn’t have that, that’s when Lock presses and makes the mental mistakes.

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Lock's never had a great wide receiver, so I feel bad for him in that sense. Albert O. is probably the best of the lot. Otherwise it's been a succession of questionable-handed wideouts who can't get open.

That's where Lock being strictly a pocket QB has killed him at Mizzou, but would be considered an asset in the pros. He's never benefitted from the completions that come from scrambling when a play breaks down.

It really is a shame Maty Mauk flamed out. Pinkel was bringing him along slowly and building his confidence. It might not have made a difference in what he is currently, but I don't see how he could be much worse - individually or with wins as a program.

I don't know if it will still be first round. He's certainly hurt his stock against quality competition. But he will have an excellent Pro Day because he does have the arm. He will probably show decent in the various tests. While I think he has bought into his own press clippings too much, I don't think he's as dumb as Gabbert. He will go in the first couple of rounds. He will probably have a Gabbert type of career.

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I think you guys were asking a lot of Lock to play 2 top 5 teams without his top 2 WRs.

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To me that is an excuse. We are suppose to have a transcendent talent at QB, so work with what you have and elevate the team around you. Being down two WR still doesn't explain the inaccuracy and poor field reads.

He had players open and missed them. Especially what you would call open in NFL standards.

He was pressured, yes. But there were opportunities for him to navigate and step up in the pocket to set his feet and get the ball out quick.

Go look at the film. Our OL did a decent job pushing the DE’s/DT’s past the QB to ensure they were not even with Lock giving him an opportunity to step up. What does lock do? He continues to back pedal into the pressure. Cook had his share of problems, no doubt, and our line was not perfect, but they gave him 3-5 sec to make decisions.

On numerous plays, he had enough time to get to his 3rd and 4th reads. On those plays he under threw his Tailbacks or threw behind his receivers on shallow crosses which was also evident on film.

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Except this is college not the NFL.

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I would concede to this point if we were not talking about Drew Lock. Drew Lock came back to school to become the number one pick/first QB taken in the draft. The expectations made by him and the leadership of our program put this narrative in our head, not us.

With those expectations comes an expected realty that we have a quarterback who in 9 months will become the face of a struggling NFL franchise. To say we should not expect our QB to distribute the football in tight windows, to navigate a pocket against NFL talent, or to not make simple mistakes is asinine.

At minimum Drew should be placing 50/50 balls out there to our playmakers so they have some opportunities to make plays. Go look at Kam Scott's first TD against UT Martin or JJ's long 4th down grab over a defender early this year against Purdue. Those were balls that gave our guys chances against good coverage. We have not seen that at that same level in three games. Yes Hall can take the top off a defense, but we have seen in other games how talented we are at the skill position group. In three weeks a Heisman Candidate and number one pick should be able to elevate that talent after three weeks of knowing his number one receiver is gone.

Lock has struggled for sure but I believe he is personally taking too much heat. Before the season started everyone was excited about our offense and a big piece of that was due to Lock. A big portion of this is coaching (player development)

Fr. - Shouldn't have been starting but it is what it is. He had to with Mauk's issues. Plus, OLine problems.
So. - New OC. New offense. But... it was "gimmicky". He wasn't taught read progression and a balanced attack. It was all big play and tempo.
Jr. - More of the same. He wasn't being developed beyond the scheme in place.
Sr. - New OC. Again. New offense... similar but definitely a change. Probably for the better long term but not ideal for the Sr. with lots of pressure on him.

Most of this is deflection from the real issue. The inability to manage the talent that we have... and this isn't limited to the QB.